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Feedback Guild Battlegrounds Update 2021

planetofthehumans2

Emperor
Feedback on the elefants? They're all pretty much the same with slightly altered values. For some insane reason, the elephant with the middle attack has double the FP of the other two, and the lowest attack elephant has a mere 20+ guild goods??? If a basic level 80 ark give 160 of EACH goods to the treasury, elephant can give quite a bit more especially for being the weakest link! Nobody going to build that one unless it's bumped up in bonus either more goods or more FP.

Not really a fan of the 3 elefants, could have just gone with one with the highest attack.
 

xivarmy

Overlord
Perk Creator
planetofthehumans2 said:
Feedback on the elefants? They're all pretty much the same with slightly altered values. For some insane reason, the elephant with the middle attack has double the FP of the other two, and the lowest attack elephant has a mere 20+ guild goods??? If a basic level 80 ark give 160 of EACH goods to the treasury, elephant can give quite a bit more especially for being the weakest link! Nobody going to build that one unless it's bumped up in bonus either more goods or more FP.

Not really a fan of the 3 elefants, could have just gone with one with the highest attack.
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Well the FP elephant is an important option too in order to not write it off entirely for SoH-lovers. The goods elephant, *shrug* - it doesn't hurt anything that it's there.
 
Prom d Exolandia

Prom d Exolandia

Baronet
Where are the improvements in this new map? Big guilds can still gorge themselves just as much (and even more) thanks to siege camps. The guilds are still as much the yoyo between platinum and diamond league. Medium guilds always get blown up by big 1000PL guilds. Big guilds always stuff themselves with so much FP. And did we need a bonus building giving % off?

Nothing that makes me dream in this new version of the guild battlegrounds
 

planetofthehumans2

Emperor
xivarmy said:
Well the FP elephant is an important option too in order to not write it off entirely for SoH-lovers. The goods elephant, *shrug* - it doesn't hurt anything that it's there.
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It doesn't have a high enough FP value for BG, I mean I guess if you were replacing TF's maybe?? Arguably, attack % is worth more than FP anyway. But why bother putting resources into something users arn't going to use, and then I encourage the staff to buff this building to give it more meaning.

I'm not really thrilled I have to wait a month to get a selection kit for one of these.
 

xivarmy

Overlord
Perk Creator
planetofthehumans2 said:
It doesn't have a high enough FP value for BG, I mean I guess if you were replacing TF's maybe?? Arguably, attack % is worth more than FP anyway. But why bother putting resources into something users arn't going to use, and then I encourage the staff to buff this building to give it more meaning.

I'm not really thrilled I have to wait a month to get a selection kit for one of these.
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It doesn't have to be a blue galaxy building. I don't use BG charges on SoH either. Usually the cutoff for that for me atm is 10-11 FP on my worlds with a blue galaxy.

But I'm also not into nothing-but-attack stacking (and frankly the elephant isn't even that great an attack building, just "good").

2% attack vs 3 FP, I'll take the 3 FP every time.

10% attack (elephant) vs 1 extra FP (SoH), I'm happy enough with the elephant.

Short version: if the only elephant was the attack elephant, the kits would probably go straight to the antique dealer for me. Since the 6 FP option exists, it *might* not. So since you think the only elephant that makes sense is the highest attack one, and I think the only elephant that makes sense is the highest FP one, that justifies two of them.

Is there someone out there that thinks the highest Guild-Goods elephant is the appealing one? Maybe.

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Bear in mind with recent history of asking for buffs for things, they often "buff" the less appealing option by making the more appealing version worse :p So if there's one version you *are* happy with, I'd advise just to focus on that :p
 

planetofthehumans2

Emperor
xivarmy said:
Bear in mind with recent history of asking for buffs for things, they often "buff" the less appealing option by making the more appealing version worse :p So if there's one version you *are* happy with, I'd advise just to focus on that :p
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Come on now, my changes in the nature event weren't catastrophic. ;)

I'm not really digging that when I enable the sector view mode, it hides the flag/lock icons. Or maybe this is in my browser? But I actually have to click on the sector to see if I can fight on it which is mildly annoying. The map is so giant there is a lot of room to put this info at a glance.
 

Yekk

Regent
If the fragment drop percentage is 25% (it maybe lower) ,ignoring league rewards, it will take 6400 fights to make a level 8 Elephant. On live I do have players that do that every league. Some much more. But for the rank and file players it will take many leagues at one Elephant league a month to make a fully leveled Elephant. This is for a top ranked GBG guild.

6400 fights X 25%=1600 fragments 8X200=1600 /// league rewards ignored but do play in over time
 

Yekk

Regent
Could someone with large numbers of encounters please show from their helper their drops in version two? My guild is "resting up" this league to build treasury. I see Ember did early, thank you.

Also, can some one show if they have reached a decent checkerboard? And their thoughts on its effectiveness/costs to treasury. Better or worse than V1?
 

BeeVee

Squire
How is it possible that some guilds have 4 sectors surrounding their initial sector and some (2 ?) have only 3 sectors surrounding their initial sector ?
This is unfair too.
 
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DEADP00L

DEADP00L

Emperor
Perk Creator
By limiting to 6 guilds per map, by distributing the locations so that no sector is more than 2 and that each guild has at least one sector with 2 CDS adjacent to the HQ, we would have more equity and therefore strategy.
Because there it makes even more casino !!!
 
Owl II

Owl II

Emperor
drakenridder said:
@Owl II LP bonuses would be useless for diamond 1k+ LP guilds. Though getting earned LP or VP from each season getting converted to prestige for top3 guilds only would probably giving more of an reason to want to get in top3. An formula for such conversion which taking LP into account would make sense as leagues should also affect it.
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Who is talking about LP bonuses? I wrote about the addition to the ranking. In the case of 1000 LP, this is 4500 prestige points in addition to 18000 for the first place, +1800 for the second place and +900 points for the third place.
 
drakenridder

drakenridder

Overlord
Perk Creator
@Owl II
Owl II said:
For example, it is worth trying to add 25% to the rancing (LP) for first place, 15% for second place and 5% for third place, as in GE or GVG
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Couldn't make up in you're original post that you where talking about prestige. Thought it was about LP, League Points. If I'm not mistaken GE gives an bonus on guild power, not perse prestige. If I'm not mistaken prestige is mutually exclusive from GvG and guild levels but I might be wrong in this statement. In any case I like the idea
 
Emberguard

Emberguard

Emperor
drakenridder said:
If I'm not mistaken GE gives an bonus on guild power, not perse prestige. If I'm not mistaken prestige is mutually exclusive from GvG and guild levels but I might be wrong in this statement. In any case I like the idea
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You're correct. Prestige comes from:
  • Guild V Guild
    • land owned +bonus for being a top ranking Guild on a per map basis
      • 1st (+15%)
      • 2nd (+10%)
      • 3rd (+5%)
  • Guild Level
    • Level x 25
  • Guild Battlegrounds
    • League Points x 18

Guild Expedition only provides Crowns towards the Guild level. The bonus on Crowns earned for finishing in the top three in Guild Expedition are 1st (+25%), 2nd (+15%) and 3rd (+10%)
 
Owl II

Owl II

Emperor
drakenridder said:
@Owl II

Couldn't make up in you're original post that you where talking about prestige. Thought it was about LP, League Points. If I'm not mistaken GE gives an bonus on guild power, not perse prestige. If I'm not mistaken prestige is mutually exclusive from GvG and guild levels but I might be wrong in this statement. In any case I like the idea
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GE gives an addition to crowns, yes. The first three receive an addition to prestige on the GVG. The idea is to give the guilds within the groups at least some reason to compete
 

Yekk

Regent
On my worlds I hear pretty much the same thing about GBG. That its flaws are why players are leaving the game. My leaders feel overwhelmed by the 24/7 nature of this beast. The small guilds can not fight. The big guilds can but lose leaders so often their guild numbers drop. This " GBG fix" does nothing to help the game at this time. It does not matter what new colors you paint an Edsel if you leave its flaws unfixed...
 
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