Praeceptor
Marquis
Normally at beta server should be there to test feature and therefore we all also test bad features but that doesn't mean that we like them.
So true.
Normally at beta server should be there to test feature and therefore we all also test bad features but that doesn't mean that we like them.
Now let's calculate this for a CE player(IA player) with the Arc of 180 lvl523M medals = 70 attempts in SAAB in the same week
no chance against diamonds spenders
70 attempts are only 3500 diamonds
for all who want to calculate
formula = age start value * (1,2 ^ (attempt -1))
(in SAAB it starts with 300)
If it was better worded for explanation from the get-go on the reason why such a feature was taken down (I don't know, like "trying something new" or even "the old PVP system was outdated and/or not used in terms of participation"), we'd probably understand. Heck, if this travesty was to be included, it should be included alongside the old PVP towers so players can at least test the new layout while still having fun with the old, maybe suggesting more things to make the new one worth while.Since I am the forum team member who commented here as a player, let me clarify a few things from my perspective.
I don't see myself as the forum police. I guess maybe I am that too, but really I am here to facilitate your discussion and answer what game-related questions I can. (To be clear, I don't make development or policy decisions so I can't answer any questions that begin with "Why...") I attempt to facilitate your feedback by keeping the discussion on topic, and seeing that everyone has a chance to be heard and not bullied. To the degree that involves enforcing the forum rules so be it, but the purpose of the rules is to facilitate discussion and feedback with a goal of making FoE better. That is my purpose as well.
I haven't seen much need to act in defense of "us players". Who are we under attack by? Certainly I have not seen any players under attack by anyone from Inno or the support team.
So. How do I feel about this thing? I am not a big PvP Arena fan. But I was not a PvP Towers fan either. I am definitely not a fan of the redundancy, rudeness and vitriol that characterize some of the posts in this thread. But they are all part of a game I am still very much a big fan of, still enjoy playing, and try to make better.
It's not the first time that a larger market was needed to further test something. This doesn't mean we did a bad job on Beta and you should not see it as such. It just means they need a larger market.
I know that you want to have more information on the other feedback received but as I've already said several times, this is not something I can share with you. This means I will not confirm or deny any theories you have, even if wildly inaccurate. This does not mean you are being lied to. I know you would like to know the reasons behind decisions made, but again that isn't something that is shared.
The Beta Forum represents only a portion of the Beta Community. Whilst the Forum comments from users are generally in agreement with one another it does not necessarily follow that the opinion on the forum is representative of the whole community. This does not detract from the value of the feedback provided.
The Beta Forum represents only a portion of the Beta Community. Whilst the Forum comments from users are generally in agreement with one another it does not necessarily follow that the opinion on the forum is representative of the whole community. This does not detract from the value of the feedback provided.
I have the impression that these messages are written by computer. Repeating the same sentences over and over again.I know that you want to have more information on the other feedback received but as I've already said several times, this is not something I can share with you. This means I will not confirm or deny any theories you have, even if wildly inaccurate. This does not mean you are being lied to. I know you would like to know the reasons behind decisions made, but again that isn't something that is shared.
I have the impression that these messages are written by computer. Repeating the same sentences over and over again.
Yes, we won't find out where the positive feedback comes from. But I can just as well say that a pink unicorn is flying in space and I will not prove it. And has anyone believed it? So are people to believe that there are positive opinions somewhere? They don't have to believe it because no evidence was provided to them.
I readed throught the 21 pages on the EN server forum and all are experiencing the same matchmaking problems after a battle or 6 done ! So how way MORE better is that larger market ? It is larger, but the matchmaking system is ready for ... the BIN, really, believe me, it IS !! Are the devs blind or something ? Please .... listen to the players, read what they have written so far ....It's not the first time that a larger market was needed to further test something. This doesn't mean we did a bad job on Beta and you should not see it as such. It just means they need a larger market.
I know that you want to have more information on the other feedback received but as I've already said several times, this is not something I can share with you. This means I will not confirm or deny any theories you have, even if wildly inaccurate. This does not mean you are being lied to. I know you would like to know the reasons behind decisions made, but again that isn't something that is shared.
The Beta Forum represents only a portion of the Beta Community. Whilst the Forum comments from users are generally in agreement with one another it does not necessarily follow that the opinion on the forum is representative of the whole community. This does not detract from the value of the feedback provided.
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Now can you please explain to us why the new pvp is better than the old one
Can you explain how it is possible that noone on the forum has some positive feedback for the Arena? As you say, the forum is a portion of the beta community so, in this portion, we should have the same diversity of opinions on the forum as in the whole community. It is completely unbelievable that not a single player here loves the Arena if the other feedback is so positive. And the feedback is very negative also on the EN forum.The Beta Forum represents only a portion of the Beta Community. Whilst the Forum comments from users are generally in agreement with one another it does not necessarily follow that the opinion on the forum is representative of the whole community. This does not detract from the value of the feedback provided.
Just wanted to see the costs of few attempts used today to reach third place
Interesting. Something between PVP Arena and PVP Tournaments.Why not make the arena inside ages?
1) still a battle between more or less equal players on a wider scale than hoods
2) everyone gets realistic opponents
3) everyone has a shot of being #1
Maybe even add a separate tab for #1 of every age or even distribute prizes among them
When you start by saying that the feedback on this forum contradicts the feedback from this mysterious source, it pretty much translates that we didn't do a good job.It's not the first time that a larger market was needed to further test something. This doesn't mean we did a bad job on Beta and you should not see it as such. It just means they need a larger market.
Doesn't anyone these days? More information is always good, especially when it comes to removing something that totally changed the game and putting something that isn't up to par. I mean, we are trying this out. There wasn't a decent owner's manual on how we're supposed to do this. We didn't get a reply to the multiple instances of getting the same opponent until much later when you decide to come out into the open. We're not mind readers, so please do not expect us to be.I know that you want to have more information on the other feedback received but as I've already said several times, this is not something I can share with you. This means I will not confirm or deny any theories you have, even if wildly inaccurate. This does not mean you are being lied to. I know you would like to know the reasons behind decisions made, but again that isn't something that is shared.
The forum is the only place where YOU had asked for the feedback of this travesty. If you say "in game", I would ask "where's that mail message that would otherwise prompt me to the forum to voice my feedback?" (I do sleep, and the game has a strange way of not letting a person stay AFK for many hours without it cutting that person off due to inactivity).The Beta Forum represents only a portion of the Beta Community. Whilst the Forum comments from users are generally in agreement with one another it does not necessarily follow that the opinion on the forum is representative of the whole community. This does not detract from the value of the feedback provided.
You need to be in Early Middle Ages to unlock the Technology to access the PvP Arena. PvP Tower in Bronze Age only works with Map battles as GE and Plunder needed Iron Age Technology to be unlocked to access them. The anti-plunder at BA was brought in to stop new players from being attacked by campers in Iron & Bronze which was good in one way but made the BA Tower meaningless.Interesting. Something between PVP Arena and PVP Tournaments.
LATER EDIT:
Also... don't forget about the differences between the costs for one attempt for an Iron Age player and for a SAAB player. There are players who have an Arc at level 80 since Iron Age and they remain there. It's very unfair to compare two players who benefit from the same facilities but bear different costs (I took the case where both players have an Arc at level 80). Yep, it's a strategy game and your strategy can be 'I remain in Iron Age forever', but INNO should encourage players to move forward...