DeletedUser
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No one is required to participate in events. If a player only wants to do 2 or 3 events a year that is fine, if they want to do more, or none, that is also fine
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No one is required to participate in events. If a player only wants to do 2 or 3 events a year that is fine, if they want to do more, or none, that is also fine
miSc
Steward
Thing is though (just defending their cause a bit here) - That if you don't do the events you miss out on special stuff, which provides you with advantages over others. If you wish to have a solid chance at competeting with others on higher levels, you have to keep up or you miss out.
So Forge is "forcing" your hand, and making you participate plus spending diamonds. It's obvious to anyone, if you open your eyes
It is a gaming company afterall, and they will try to make money any way they can. Starting with very basics of making you harvest daily productions for a reward, which ignites the old.. habbit/addiction gene. Once YOU decide to give this game a go, you either hooked or not. If you're hooked, you become addicted and naturally an income for the company. Keep in mind, with everything being purely virtual - all we get in return is passtime activity and some enjoyment for a few hours everyday.
I am not bashing Innogames, just pointing out some obvious things here related to the debate.
People complain about the amount of events, and being forced to do them.
Well ... no one is forcing you.. directly, however they DO have a solid grip on you by feeding an addiction. Only way you can counter this, is by stop playing.
Innogames is a company, trying to also make money. They will shoot out as many events as possible, untill people stops doing them.
Now for FORGE BOWL constructive critisim, I'd think the amount of bowls used to advance is a bit off. You need aprox 1000 bowls to finish 1 field run. A bit over the top if you ask me.
So Forge is "forcing" your hand, and making you participate plus spending diamonds. It's obvious to anyone, if you open your eyes
It is a gaming company afterall, and they will try to make money any way they can. Starting with very basics of making you harvest daily productions for a reward, which ignites the old.. habbit/addiction gene. Once YOU decide to give this game a go, you either hooked or not. If you're hooked, you become addicted and naturally an income for the company. Keep in mind, with everything being purely virtual - all we get in return is passtime activity and some enjoyment for a few hours everyday.
I am not bashing Innogames, just pointing out some obvious things here related to the debate.
People complain about the amount of events, and being forced to do them.
Well ... no one is forcing you.. directly, however they DO have a solid grip on you by feeding an addiction. Only way you can counter this, is by stop playing.
Innogames is a company, trying to also make money. They will shoot out as many events as possible, untill people stops doing them.
Now for FORGE BOWL constructive critisim, I'd think the amount of bowls used to advance is a bit off. You need aprox 1000 bowls to finish 1 field run. A bit over the top if you ask me.
indian20
Steward
I support that - I just checked and I needed approx. 1.1k for one touchdown. In my perspective if I do the math correctly no chance of upgrading this thing to max level.
Required: 9 Kits
Quest provides 3 Kits - leaves 6 to go - equals scoring 11 times That leaves us with 11k - 12k of football required. Maybe the amount of footballs will raise for the daily quests, but
the first 30 Quests = 3000
prize = 1250
starter = 200
so
the last 20 Quests would require over 330 - 380 FB per Quest.
Maybe some of the staff can confirm how many FB we will receive from the last twenty quests.
Required: 9 Kits
Quest provides 3 Kits - leaves 6 to go - equals scoring 11 times That leaves us with 11k - 12k of football required. Maybe the amount of footballs will raise for the daily quests, but
the first 30 Quests = 3000
prize = 1250
starter = 200
so
the last 20 Quests would require over 330 - 380 FB per Quest.
Maybe some of the staff can confirm how many FB we will receive from the last twenty quests.
you missed the 80 daily footballs but that would only be about 1600 (about one and a half touchdowns) more - still about 3-4K short...
lets see how many FB the daily quests will bring - maybe the FB-rewards will increase progressively every so many quests (that is what they did last year)...
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El-Empecinado
Merchant
Hola, siempre estamos con el mismo canto.
Es cierto que nadie obliga a hacer los eventos, pero si estás en el juego será por algo, o, ¿solo por el clásico?
Queremos los acontecimientos con cierta sensatez y sentido lógico.
pero el peor de todos los eventos, especialmente aquellos donde el% de prima para los premios, es que estos% son abominables.
ejemplo; 104 bolas para obtener una torre de victoria, ya que su% es 65, y el resto es 12 +/-.
Este es el tono general en la mayoría de los eventos, una vergüenza y un desprecio de InnoGame, con las personas que dan a este juego cinco años, es cierto que es una compañía y como tal ha creado el juego para vivir de este y otros juegos.
Pero a veces ganas más con muchos que con muchos.
Tenga en cuenta y lea a las personas que manifiestan ciertos cambios.
considerar
Translation:
Hello, we are always with the same song.
It is true that nobody requires to do the events, but if you are in the game will be for something, or, just for the classic?
We want events with a certain sensibility and logical sense.
but the worst of all events, especially those where the bonus% for the prizes, is that these% are abominable.
example; 104 balls to obtain a victory tower, since its% is 65, and the rest is 12 +/-.
This is the general tone in most events, a shame and a disdain for InnoGame, with the people who give this game five years, it is true that it is a company and as such has created the game to live on this and other games
But sometimes you win more with many than with many.
Keep in mind and read the people who show certain changes.
to consider
Es cierto que nadie obliga a hacer los eventos, pero si estás en el juego será por algo, o, ¿solo por el clásico?
Queremos los acontecimientos con cierta sensatez y sentido lógico.
pero el peor de todos los eventos, especialmente aquellos donde el% de prima para los premios, es que estos% son abominables.
ejemplo; 104 bolas para obtener una torre de victoria, ya que su% es 65, y el resto es 12 +/-.
Este es el tono general en la mayoría de los eventos, una vergüenza y un desprecio de InnoGame, con las personas que dan a este juego cinco años, es cierto que es una compañía y como tal ha creado el juego para vivir de este y otros juegos.
Pero a veces ganas más con muchos que con muchos.
Tenga en cuenta y lea a las personas que manifiestan ciertos cambios.
considerar
Translation:
Hello, we are always with the same song.
It is true that nobody requires to do the events, but if you are in the game will be for something, or, just for the classic?
We want events with a certain sensibility and logical sense.
but the worst of all events, especially those where the bonus% for the prizes, is that these% are abominable.
example; 104 balls to obtain a victory tower, since its% is 65, and the rest is 12 +/-.
This is the general tone in most events, a shame and a disdain for InnoGame, with the people who give this game five years, it is true that it is a company and as such has created the game to live on this and other games
But sometimes you win more with many than with many.
Keep in mind and read the people who show certain changes.
to consider
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DeletedUser9570
Guest
which means you only incorporate the feedback which agrees with you...
By the way, do you realise that last year the carnival event started on Ash Wednesday when carnival was over - just because you wanted to squeeze in the football event between the winter and carnival event.
By the way, what does the colossus have to do with football?
DeletedUser8859
Guest
Translation: (not google translation)
Hi, we are always at the same point.
It is true that nobody forces us to do the events, but if you are in the game must be for something, or just for the classic?
We want the events with certain sense and logic, but the worst of all of the events, specially those where the cost % for the prices, that the % is abominable, example: 104 balls to obtain a Victory Tower, given that its % is 65, and the rest is 12+/-
This is the general tone in the majority of the events, a shame and disrespect from InnoGames to the people that have given five (5) years to this game, it is true that it is a company and as such has created the game to live from this one and other games. But sometimes would win with more than with more.
Take in consideration and read from the people that claim for certain changes.
Consider
DeletedUser7240
Guest
last year, the update kit came out 2 times
3 kits in missions
4 kits in touch down ( 1100 x7 = 7700 ) 3000 first missions + 2000 in daily missions + 1250 prize + 80 x20 = 1600 daily + 200 starter
2 kits in daily special
3 kits in missions
4 kits in touch down ( 1100 x7 = 7700 ) 3000 first missions + 2000 in daily missions + 1250 prize + 80 x20 = 1600 daily + 200 starter
2 kits in daily special
housemouse
Squire
I just spent about 1K Football's and did not even make it over the game field. how is it supposed to work there to get 6 upgrades?
housemouse
Squire
Pillar of Heroes? I could only reach it to Lv. 6
I don't need a level 6 Colossus. :-/
vidicecilia
Baronet
In the first eight missions we must spend 56 fp. It is too much.
DeletedUser9410
Guest
One thing for sure, if we cant ( don't ) get all the upgrades, that Colossus is going to look damn ugly.
I would have thought it would be better to have a very small one, that grows in size as we upgrade it, like most other special buildings do.
Half a statue and some scaffolding isnt pretty to look at.
I would have thought it would be better to have a very small one, that grows in size as we upgrade it, like most other special buildings do.
Half a statue and some scaffolding isnt pretty to look at.
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Feanor II
Baronet
No one is required to participate in events. If a player only wants to do 2 or 3 events a year that is fine, if they want to do more, or none, that is also fine
I never understood the "there's too many events" critique. As you point out, no one has to do them. From a player perspective, it's free stuff. If Inno set it up so there was constantly an Event I'd be good with that. Heck, go one step further-incorporate Historical Event questlines (since they're usually small) into larger Events. More Events means more options for me!
Well, yes that's the point. Finishing more Events give you more stuff, which makes you a higher-level player. The more you put into it the higher you'll go. Like the more a football player practices (to use the theme) the better they'll be on the field. You get out what you put in.
So Forge is "forcing" your hand, and making you participate plus spending diamonds. It's obvious to anyone, if you open your eyes
It is a gaming company afterall, and they will try to make money any way they can. Starting with very basics of making you harvest daily productions for a reward, which ignites the old.. habbit/addiction gene. Once YOU decide to give this game a go, you either hooked or not. If you're hooked, you become addicted and naturally an income for the company. Keep in mind, with everything being purely virtual - all we get in return is passtime activity and some enjoyment for a few hours everyday.
I am not bashing Innogames, just pointing out some obvious things here related to the debate.
People complain about the amount of events, and being forced to do them.
Well ... no one is forcing you.. directly, however they DO have a solid grip on you by feeding an addiction. Only way you can counter this, is by stop playing.
Innogames is a company, trying to also make money. They will shoot out as many events as possible, untill people stops doing them.
I completely agree with this point. I think this is a genius move by Inno to be honest. They released a bit of a dud for the Winter Event, then the Forge Bowl Event with a much better Grand Prize gets released just in time for tax refund season. It's not exactly subtle, but it works
Artubar
Baronet
Jesus... at least one player already achieved at least 158 goals... less than 8 hours after the event started.
Sorry for this being no constructive feedback, I just have to express my head shaking in some words...
There should be a limit for what one can spend per day... ATMs have limits, even casinos have limits to protect people in case they're ... temporarily out of mind....
Sorry for this being no constructive feedback, I just have to express my head shaking in some words...
There should be a limit for what one can spend per day... ATMs have limits, even casinos have limits to protect people in case they're ... temporarily out of mind....
DeletedUser
Guest
Feanor II
Baronet
ATMs have limits to protect the bank, not you, since the bank often ends up on the hook for fraudulent activity if you're not at fault. Casinos have limits not because they want to but because they're under heavy regulation from the government. Casino owners claim they want you to gamble responsibly the same way a cigarette executive says he cares about your health.
Hmm, don't think Amazon or Ebay have limits.. just saying
Neither do Wal-Mart, Best Buy, Netflix, the local sports team, the grocery store, or pretty much anywhere else you go to spend money. You're 100% correct; it's the customer's money and thus their right and responsibility to spend it how they choose. If some guy has the funds and willingness to spend enough to get 158 goals on day 1, that's his prerogative.
I won't be spending any money on Beta (since I only play Beta to get a sneak peek at the events) but I will definitely be doing my taxes as soon as I get my W2 in anticipation of the Live release.
Note: please don't nerf the Colossus.
DeletedUser
Guest
read more carefully
YARDS not goals
158 yards are less than 2 goals
Artubar
Baronet
Ok, you're right - my fault, sorry!