Feedback Forge Bowl 2018

[xivarmy]

Server seems very laggy today - also noticed that in one of the US servers though at one point so it might not be tied to the event.

In terms of the actual mechanics of the event, they seem interesting. It's difficult to evaluate how worthwhile the event is to spend time on and maybe that's a good thing. The Pillar fully upgraded is a goal worth aiming for at least - not sure about other stuff

 

[DeletedUser5097]

Short to the point
Concept of event: good
Designe: well done, also much credit for the animations
Proceeding in the ''minigame'': could be worst, but this casino like run is a nice way to go and innovative. If Inno was part of Nintendo, they would be proud for this innovative way of thinking.
New buildings: nice designe, good stuff. Especialy the pilar of heroes. Almost a stronger and smaller reskind dark tower from Halloween.
Win chances new buildings: too poor, 6% chance on something new and 70% on victory tower,
6% is too low and 70% too high, strongly suggest to change it to this: 15% chance new building
(put 2 of this football buildings in one, so realistic 30% chance) and reduce 70% to 50% chance
for the victory tower, still high enough chance for that, but giving a better out ballanced chance
for the another prizes.

Thanks for this event and your time for reading this, hopefully it helps in future development and
ballancing. Please keep in mind to keep win chances realistic, especialy if you give us 1 shot,
6% vs 70% is not realistic, 15% x2 vs 50% is more realistic.

 

[pengolodh-sc]

6. Wishing Well (You can now see next 3 touchdown rewards from window in game)
7. Upgrade

8. Rogue Hideout
9. Upgrade
10. Pillar of Heroes Lvl. 1

 

[DeletedUser5663]

I have no idea, though phonetically "foosball" resembles what the Germans call football: Fooßball.

They call it foosball because foosball means football and it is football, not soccer!

 

[DeletedUser]

we call it Fußball because we play it with the Fuß (= foot)

foot only
not because we take the ball in the hands and run with our foots

 

[DeletedUser5882]

Win chances new buildings: too poor, 6% chance on something new and 70% on victory tower,

The usual complaint would be "inno want us to buy more diamonds" but unfortunately the balance is so imbalanced that not even diamonds raises the chances to win something special. I bought 800 footballs spending 1400 diamonds and from my each shot I won a victory tower. I got 5 victory towers for 1400 diamonds! It is so difficult to win something special that buying diamonds for this event is equal to knowingly throw your money to waste bin.
Inno definitely needs to rearrange the rates as well as the reward items in my opinion.
I know that victory tower by name has an appeal to the theme victory, but it has become one of the least wanted special items after the Arc bonus. Someone with an average arc bonus can still collect easily 50 times more medals within a day of what a single victory produces weekly. I have deleted at least 30 victory of towers after building arc because after arc they automatically became obsolete and nothing but space occupying items.
Maybe consider giving some theme based decorations? We can use them to complete tasks in worst case but victory towers are only useful if the player is in a much lower era.

 

[DeletedUser6645]

The name of the event is confusing because what team are you on and playing against? Anyways it isn't a " bowl " . Yeah American football (we get it they are your biggest market) Why not call it rugby and teach us about that sport, generally teach us about sports (edutainment ?) you know the world not behind the computer. I have never understood American football, not that interested in the sport or in the U.S. right now but hey lets not get political right?

Your winning percentages are always out of whack but at least I understood it is to ' motivate' spending diamonds. Not this time though, 6 % on new items is really not enough maybe say 25 %.

I do love SoK but these upgrades of the tower look a lot nicer. I would like to get most of the upgrades now instead of seeing that this will be a multiple year event in order to finish. I've spent about 1000 goal points or whatever they are called and I just only made 1 touchdown. Spending the 1500 diamonds and completing every (please no tech research) assignment I predict about 2 maybe 3 touchdowns in total?

So does the amount of goal points you win increase with every assignment and will it keep on increasing?

 

[xivarmy]

The usual complaint would be "inno want us to buy more diamonds" but unfortunately the balance is so imbalanced that not even diamonds raises the chances to win something special. I bought 800 footballs spending 1400 diamonds and from my each shot I won a victory tower. I got 5 victory towers for 1400 diamonds! It is so difficult to win something special that buying diamonds for this event is equal to knowingly throw your money to waste bin.
Inno definitely needs to rearrange the rates as well as the reward items in my opinion.
I know that victory tower by name has an appeal to the theme victory, but it has become one of the least wanted special items after the Arc bonus. Someone with an average arc bonus can still collect easily 50 times more medals within a day of what a single victory produces weekly. I have deleted at least 30 victory of towers after building arc because after arc they automatically became obsolete and nothing but space occupying items.
Maybe consider giving some theme based decorations? We can use them to complete tasks in worst case but victory towers are only useful if the player is in a much lower era.

It seems reasonable to spend diamonds to go for touchdowns. Continually picking the biggest arrow rather than the chest with specials i got about 7 touchdowns from 6k diamonds. Given that the 10th prize is a pillar, it'll be 9 touchdowns for the first fully upgraded pillar and ~12 touchdowns i'd gather for each additional fully upgraded pillar a person wanted (every 2nd prize being an upgrade) or about 10k diamonds per additional pillar. Which would be steep except that 10k diamonds includes an additional SoK+Wishing Well+Rogue Hideout+20 FP+whatever prize 12 turns out to be plus whatever you win in all the chests along the way. For big spenders needing to develop a new city, the event seems efficient enough. For small spenders... probably only a little to finish the 9 touchdowns if needed i guess.

 

[DeletedUser5882]

Continually picking the biggest arrow rather than the chest with specials i got about 7 touchdowns from 6k diamonds

The biggest arrow does not necessarily cost more footballs. The amount of footballs for each arrow changes constantly. I managed to get only 1 touchdown after 1400 diamonds (800 footballs) and circa 500 footballs I had already collected. All I have now after that much spending is a victory pillar upgrade, 5 victory towers, buildings for coins and cons+supply packages... oh and 5 or 10 forge points.

Yes the touchdown looks like worth it but I am starting to think it is not. Purchasing directly SoK and other buildings that would equal to fully upgraded pillar or even be better would cost more or less the same in other events and it would also save us the stress.

 

[xivarmy]

The biggest arrow does not necessarily cost more footballs. The amount of footballs for each arrow changes constantly. I managed to get only 1 touchdown after 1400 diamonds (800 footballs) and circa 500 footballs I had already collected. All I have now after that much spending is a victory pillar upgrade, 5 victory towers, buildings for coins and cons+supply packages... oh and 5 or 10 forge points.

Yes the touchdown looks like worth it but I am starting to think it is not. Purchasing directly SoK and other buildings that would equal to fully upgraded pillar or even be better would cost more or less the same in other events and it would also save us the stress.

Yes the biggest arrow does not necessarily cost more footballs - but it does necessarily give more yards. Overall you want the least footballs per yard to go for touchdowns which mostly means yellow+ are maybe worth considering (yellow = 4-5 yards, green = 6-7 yards, blue = 8-9 yards).

There is no equal to fully upgraded pillar. It is the most space efficient FP producer they've made to date (at 3 FP a day in 3x3.5 = 10.5 space compared to the normal 1 FP a day in 2x2.5 = 5 space for a SoK). It eats less aid than equivalent SoKs and makes goods besides. Even if you ignore those considerations though 4 SoKs for 10k diamonds isn't that far past what you'd expect to pay in other events - and you get a lot of other useful stuff on top of it.

 

[DeletedUser]

It seems reasonable to spend diamonds to go for touchdowns. Continually picking the biggest arrow rather than the chest with specials i got about 7 touchdowns from 6k diamonds. Given that the 10th prize is a pillar, it'll be 9 touchdowns for the first fully upgraded pillar and ~12 touchdowns i'd gather for each additional fully upgraded pillar a person wanted (every 2nd prize being an upgrade) or about 10k diamonds per additional pillar. Which would be steep except that 10k diamonds includes an additional SoK+Wishing Well+Rogue Hideout+20 FP+whatever prize 12 turns out to be plus whatever you win in all the chests along the way. For big spenders needing to develop a new city, the event seems efficient enough. For small spenders... probably only a little to finish the 9 touchdowns if needed i guess.

I like your post, that is very good insight before hitting the target live, thank you I think now I would rather go your way, cause you are right - 10k diamonds for 2 full Pillars and additional SoK is quite reasonable price, giving the fact that you don't have to count on luck with it. I like guaranteed good prizes and that is what I like the most in this event. Now I know how much I would have to save to achieve that goal and for change, I can really PLAN the event ahead.

Saying that, I don't have 10k diamonds on Beta to achieve that and my goal here is getting the event buildings rather - and, to my surprise and joy, after spending 1k free diamonds, I did it! I have all the buildings, picking mostly (cos that wasn't always possible) chests with them. And 2 wishing wells and one reno kit was also nice to win - I guess all the missing luck from previous events have accumulated in this one

But downside is, I achieved only one touchdown and I assume I wouldn't get as many upgrades as I need to have one fully upgraded Pillar - if they wouldn't be a daily special at least one day during the event...

 

[DeletedUser5882]

Yes the biggest arrow does not necessarily cost more footballs - but it does necessarily give more yards.

Yes you are right. But obviously I was not clear about what I was intending to say. Since not all big arrow choices have a high football price, then it may not be necessary to spend diamonds to hit them. The problem still lies in the chest rewards and the chances to get them. The ultimate reward is the pillar for sure, but there are other new buildings that I would like to get, at least one of them. That is actually the disappointing part. It feels like we have to sacrifice a portion of the event to win another portion! Then why the percentages. It could very well have been like a daily challenge and asked us what part we want more and save us the disappointment.

 

[DeletedUser1418]

Crappy event... if you don't know the rules of the actual game you will loose. Knowing the rules = also you loose, because the prizes are crap you need to choose to advance. So if you wanna go for touchdowns or whatever the call a try, go for the worse prized options. What a pity, and really sad... A German made game but really focused on the USA alone. It become clearer by the day that the events are ruining the whole game as a whole.

 

[DeletedUser7884]

The event isn't particularly intuitive. It took me a while to work out that distance travelled is a separate consideration, different from cost of chest and reward. The introductory explanation isn't very clear either.

I'm still not sure how much of a difference to distance the arrows make - is there a lot of difference between the biggest arrow and the smallest, or only a bit? What are the relevant chances? How am I supposed to weigh up which I should go for when I don't have all the information?

 

[DeletedUser8277]

I'm really not a football fan however this event seems great. I love that the pillar upgrades do not add to the size of the building. I've long thought the previous 'upgrades' were typically a waste as they just turn things into larger versions that often don't seem worth the size. The fact that it can be motivated also adds to it's value tremendously. Also the SoK in the touchdown rewards is a big win. I can definitely see myself taking out the wallet on live.

 

[DeletedUser7503]

i thought this was gonna be fun but after running 11-12 plays and only gain 25 yards its a bore .................lost interest already

 

[xivarmy]

The event isn't particularly intuitive. It took me a while to work out that distance travelled is a separate consideration, different from cost of chest and reward. The introductory explanation isn't very clear either.

I'm still not sure how much of a difference to distance the arrows make - is there a lot of difference between the biggest arrow and the smallest, or only a bit? What are the relevant chances? How am I supposed to weigh up which I should go for when I don't have all the information?

While i haven't tried the shortest two, there isn't a lot of variance in the ones i have :

Blue = 8-9
Green = 6-7
Yellow = 4-5

I would logically guess that orange is 2-3 and red is 0-1.

 

[DeletedUser7503]

having cho
chosen the longest arrow all but two times it doesn't seem to do much as my average is 2.5 yards per arrow and thus looks like its gonna take 20 frank plays to reach the goal line which is retarded since at that rate i'll only be able to upgrade the tower once. another stupid frank waste of time event designed to force people to spend hundreds on diamonds to be able to benefit from it.

 

[DeletedUser5882]

Does our yard number also reset on event daily reset time?
I really have a bad memory and can't be absolutely sure but I believe I had left my yard count below 40 like 30 or 32..
If that too resets then our chances to successfully complete the event are being vastly reduced.

 

[DeletedUser]

why should you get it at 15 ?

the picture says: you get it after 20 and have done 15