GateKeeper
Baronet
Tree of Patience description in annoucement, Defense is spelled wrong.
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Feedback St. Patrick's Day Event 2023
- Thread starter Juber
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GateKeeper
Baronet
Someone correct if I'm wrong:
Nutcracker 2x2 need road, 3 FPs, 5%AB, 7%DB
Tree of Vitality 1x1 need road, 1FP, 2%AB, 2%DB
4 Vitality is 4FPs, 8%AB, 8%DB that beats Nutcracker by 1fp, 3%AB, 1%DB
However, Vitality DOES require a road, so that 3 more Roads vs 1 Nutcracker road, and thats 3 additional motivations needed.
Looks like a draw, which is more than fine of course...just saying!
Nutcracker 2x2 need road, 3 FPs, 5%AB, 7%DB
Tree of Vitality 1x1 need road, 1FP, 2%AB, 2%DB
4 Vitality is 4FPs, 8%AB, 8%DB that beats Nutcracker by 1fp, 3%AB, 1%DB
However, Vitality DOES require a road, so that 3 more Roads vs 1 Nutcracker road, and thats 3 additional motivations needed.
Looks like a draw, which is more than fine of course...just saying!
the impact of "Need Road" depends on the building - the longer the long side is, the less impact "need road" has (assuming the road is along the short side).
A 2x2 that needs road effectively takes 5 squares usually (2 squares of road that presumably also have another building on the other side, so 1 square of road budgeted to the attached building).
A 1x1 that needs road effectively takes 1.5 squares.
Once you have 15 nutcrackers, you can mass self-aid daily (and make a mass self-aid back from the nutcrackers) so number of motivations will no longer be an issue. Tree of Vitality is ahead in that situation in all but defense.
Nutcracker: 0.6 FP / square, 1% attack / square, 1.4% defense / square
Vitality: 0.67 FP / square, 1.33% attack / square, 1.33% defense / square
David the sagacious
Steward
Based on Juber's comment, I would guess that any free option will require diamonds to reach it. (message # 12)
CrashBoom
Legend
if it requires diamonds then it isn't free anymore
I think I said it 2 or 3 years ago, when there were problems to get the forge bowl building to max level without diamonds.
I do not mind the highest level being gated as long as the max free level has decent values and as long as the bonus given for the last level is not over the top.
In recent times the growth of the event buildings has been exponential with their level. The 5th level often only has minor improvements on the first level, while the final level often is about double the penultimate one. The scaling worked way better in past times.
So I would be fine with lvl 10, if it only doubled the tree fragments, and maybe got one or two additional FP or so - the other stats of the lvl 10 should be the lvl 9 stats.
Another middle ground would be to allow players to get one max building for free (give the golden kit as final quest reward or final milestone for example) and only gate additional max buildings by placing further golden kits in the event pass.
I do not mind the highest level being gated as long as the max free level has decent values and as long as the bonus given for the last level is not over the top.
In recent times the growth of the event buildings has been exponential with their level. The 5th level often only has minor improvements on the first level, while the final level often is about double the penultimate one. The scaling worked way better in past times.
So I would be fine with lvl 10, if it only doubled the tree fragments, and maybe got one or two additional FP or so - the other stats of the lvl 10 should be the lvl 9 stats.
Another middle ground would be to allow players to get one max building for free (give the golden kit as final quest reward or final milestone for example) and only gate additional max buildings by placing further golden kits in the event pass.
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Prometheus65
Farmer
The third event in a row in which there is no additional population?
This isn't nice for players who are just starting out and need space.
This isn't nice for players who are just starting out and need space.
CrazyBoy08
Farmer
As said before, paying to have the building at level 10 is for me not acceptable, but we will see if it is possible without paying real money (but not without a lot of diamonds I think)
XIA*
Marquis
I also agree that self-aid kit fragments is.... bro, seriously? I have hundreds on stock already, never had to use them in the last 2 years I play. And they don't even yield much at the trader. Junk. Why fill an event prize building with junk? I'm fine with lvl 10 being an Extra, but only if it is for diamonds. Direct cash? No way I'd pay for that. The trees requiring road is also kind of silly. Not worth putting down if I have to put it next to a road. That will increase road inefficiency and we are already SO LOW on available space, with too many event buildings coming. Either rethink event distribution and do lsess events a year or take into consideration that people will eventually stop playing these events if the prizes are impossible to fit in their cities.
I have hundreds on stock already, never had to use them in the last 2 years I play. And they don't even yield much at the trader. Junk. Why fill an event prize building with junk? I'm fine with lvl 10 being an Extra, but only if it is for diamonds. Direct cash? No way I'd pay for that. The trees requiring road is also kind of silly. Not worth putting down if I have to put it next to a road. That will increase road inefficiency and we are already SO LOW on available space, with too many event buildings coming. Either rethink event distribution and do lsess events a year or take into consideration that people will eventually stop playing these events if the prizes are impossible to fit in their cities.
XIA*
Marquis
THIS! I have a new city in one world and I really struggle to get population even with a level 10 babel now.
Tahrakaiitoo
Marquis
100% Agreed!
CrashBoom
Legend
it will be there after todays update (which didn't happen yet)
I expect that it starts in about 72 minutes (11:30 german time)
Emberguard
Emperor
Either of those options sounds much better than what the initial announcement proposes.
-Alin-
Emperor
Tree of Silence (app. 6 annually)
0,5 fp/day (= 2fp * 0,25)
0,75 self aid (= 1 * 0,75)
Tree of patience (app. 6 annually)
0,75 fp/day (= 1fp * 0,75)
0,25 self aid (= 1 * 0,25)
Tree of vitality (app. 3 annually)
1 fp/day
1 1up frag/day
Total: 11 tree/year or on average <1 tree monthly. Estimates with a moderate estimated 300 annually collections. Taking into account missed collections. Imho not bad at all.
Annually F2P: 11 trees/year
Annually 1-time €15(?) - 22 trees/year
I think this event pass offers the best 1-time deal ever. Giving it for diamonds is practically giving it for free. Unless we’re talking about 100k diamonds and the diamonds for cash been buffed by 5x. Since it’s not that hard to obtain 5-10k diamonds monthly from various diamond farms. That would bring the balance to the same lvl as another F2P game with similar amounts of free premiums monthly 5-10k too but grand event premiums costing 100k, with a chance on discounts up to 70%. Pricing it with discount at €20-30.
That been said, €15-18 browser-app for double frag. are one of the best value event passes up to this point. Much better then winter event that needed additional buildings (app. €50-65browser €60-78app). Even if they’ll drop all the specs of lvl10 to lvl9 except the 10 daily frag. Then it’s still a very good value for the money.
0,5 fp/day (= 2fp * 0,25)
0,75 self aid (= 1 * 0,75)
Tree of patience (app. 6 annually)
0,75 fp/day (= 1fp * 0,75)
0,25 self aid (= 1 * 0,25)
Tree of vitality (app. 3 annually)
1 fp/day
1 1up frag/day
Total: 11 tree/year or on average <1 tree monthly. Estimates with a moderate estimated 300 annually collections. Taking into account missed collections. Imho not bad at all.
Annually F2P: 11 trees/year
Annually 1-time €15(?) - 22 trees/year
I think this event pass offers the best 1-time deal ever. Giving it for diamonds is practically giving it for free. Unless we’re talking about 100k diamonds and the diamonds for cash been buffed by 5x. Since it’s not that hard to obtain 5-10k diamonds monthly from various diamond farms. That would bring the balance to the same lvl as another F2P game with similar amounts of free premiums monthly 5-10k too but grand event premiums costing 100k, with a chance on discounts up to 70%. Pricing it with discount at €20-30.
That been said, €15-18 browser-app for double frag. are one of the best value event passes up to this point. Much better then winter event that needed additional buildings (app. €50-65browser €60-78app). Even if they’ll drop all the specs of lvl10 to lvl9 except the 10 daily frag. Then it’s still a very good value for the money.
