Discussion Pay to Win?

[Emberguard]

, you can be top 1 without paying a single diamond

uh.... do you mean without using diamonds? Or without paying cash for diamonds? 'Cause those are two very different things

 

[CrashBoom]

uh.... do you mean without using diamonds? Or without paying cash for diamonds? 'Cause those are two very different things

sure it is possible without BUYING diamonds

just have 20 diamond farms on other worlds

 

[Sl8yer]

no you can't

Yes you can, but you have to cheat.

 

[Dessire]

sure it is possible without BUYING diamonds

just have 20 diamond farms on other worlds

You do not even need that. The events eventually give you enough pretty good buildings to be competitive. The more years you play, the more buildings you have and at the end, almost all buildings from events will be not good enough to replace any building of your city.

In my case, for example, as a player who loves produce a lot of fps and goods, already have in my city everything I need to produce on it more than 11000 FPs per day + more than 20K titan goods per day.

And without spending diamond, without spending real money.

 

[paraskevas8]

You do not even need that. The events eventually give you enough pretty good buildings to be competitive. The more years you play, the more buildings you have and at the end, almost all buildings from events will be not good enough to replace any building of your city.

In my case, for example, as a player who loves produce a lot of fps and goods, already have in my city everything I need to produce on it more than 11000 FPs per day + more than 20K titan goods per day.

And without spending diamond, without spending real money.

You probably mean that you get 1,100 points and 2,000 goods every day...

 

[Praeceptor]

I don't buy diamonds. I'm 12th in my main world. I don't see this game as pay-to-win, I see it as pay-to-progress-quicker.

I like the fact that some players buy diamonds - there wouldn't be a game without them.

Recently however the things I would normally spend any spare diamonds on have become much less appealing. The way events have been designed leaves me cold. I haven't even clicked on the bony hand for the Halloween event. I don't want to play "magic the gathering" or "top trumps" as a mini-game so I'm not doing this event at all, which means I'm not spending diamonds to speed my progress. My city is advanced/strong enough that I don't really need to do any events, but if this continues the way it has been going recently, I'm eventually going to lose interest completely.

The vast majority of us are free-to-play. If Inno can't keep us happy the diamond buyers won't have anyone left to attack, and the game will obviously die.

 

[Dessire]

You probably mean that you get 1,100 points and 2,000 goods every day...

No, there are 3 buildings which allows you produce 11000 Fps per day + more than 20000 titan goods per day, and if you use 5 forgotten temples, 22000 FPs or 1 would be a little more than 13000 FPs. You need atleast have 210 expansions,.the game allows you have a max of 233 expansions aprox.

The bad part for warriors= have less than 900% of attack power.

 

[Pericles the Lion]

No, there are 3 buildings which allows you produce 11000 Fps per day + more than 20000 titan goods per day, and if you use 5 forgotten temples, 22000 FPs or 1 would be a little more than 13000 FPs. You need atleast have 210 expansions,.the game allows you have a max of 233 expansions aprox.

The bad part for warriors= have less than 900% of attack power.

I was scratching my head about the 20K+ SAT goods and 11K FPs too. In a fully expanded Titan city, getting there would require something like 6 goods per square (after accounting for Colony production and maxxed RQs) and about 3 FPs per square. This is a tall order and, it seems, would require a LOT of late generation special buildings to accomplish (if it is indeed possible). Somebody would have to be spending lots of diamonds/cash to gather many many copies of these buildings.

Sure, getting to 11K FPs using 5 Forgotten Temples is possible. However, it takes 28 days to collect enough frags to build one FT and, once planted, they only last for 28 days. Having 5 in one city can be done but this would only last for 28 days, Then, the player would have to collect frags for another 5 months before doing it again. Might as well plant 1 FT and get the 20% FP boost continually. The FP payoff is the same and less space is used.

 

[paraskevas8]

No, there are 3 buildings which allows you produce 11000 Fps per day + more than 20000 titan goods per day, and if you use 5 forgotten temples, 22000 FPs or 1 would be a little more than 13000 FPs. You need atleast have 210 expansions,.the game allows you have a max of 233 expansions aprox.

The bad part for warriors= have less than 900% of attack power.

So you are telling me that you get 11,000 points and 20,000 goods per day from the production? Did we talk about the daily production, nothing else like that?
Send me photo of your city because this is impossible

 

[Zio Dyhos]

No, there are 3 buildings which allows you produce 11000 Fps per day + more than 20000 titan goods per day, and if you use 5 forgotten temples, 22000 FPs or 1 would be a little more than 13000 FPs. You need atleast have 210 expansions,.the game allows you have a max of 233 expansions aprox.

The bad part for warriors= have less than 900% of attack power.

If you say that you produce that amount in a single day, you have probably already finished the game and are with the creators' credits when you enter your city.

 

[Vic.Vicious]

No, there are 3 buildings which allows you produce 11000 Fps per day + more than 20000 titan goods per day, and if you use 5 forgotten temples, 22000 FPs or 1 would be a little more than 13000 FPs. You need atleast have 210 expansions,.the game allows you have a max of 233 expansions aprox.

The bad part for warriors= have less than 900% of attack power.

Are you talking about the event buildings with attachments that enhance the base building?

 

[Deleted User - 57457]

If you say that you produce that amount in a single day, you have probably already finished the game and are with the creators' credits when you enter your city.

Never knew Forge is a game with an actual end. Hope it ain't like man's sky.

 

[Zio Dyhos]

Never knew Forge is a game with an actual end. Hope it ain't like man's sky.

It was a joke, it doesn't have it, unfortunately this game I think will bury us all. x(

 

[Deleted User - 57457]

@Zio Dyhos I know it’s a joke but it’s kinda interesting thing to think about. I mean an end where you’ve reached the peak of the game. With GbG and GR besides events the main replay parts

 

[Dessire]

So you are telling me that you get 11,000 points and 20,000 goods per day from the production? Did we talk about the daily production, nothing else like that?
Send me photo of your city because this is impossible

Yes, just 11k of fps and more than 20K of goods per day, without forgotten temples, and you just need copies of 3 different buildings to achieve that.

 

[Dessire]

So you are telling me that you get 11,000 points and 20,000 goods per day from the production? Did we talk about the daily production, nothing else like that?
Send me photo of your city because this is impossible

I will not, cause devs can nerf those buildings if a lot of people use them -.- i am not dumb.

 

[Pericles the Lion]

I will not, cause devs can nerf those buildings if a lot of people use them -.- i am not dumb.

As I said earlier, to accomplish this feat the city needs to be producing approximately 3 fps and 6 goods per tile. As far as I know, there are no buildings with this level of efficiency. 3 fps per tile, yes. 6 goods per tile, yes. Combined, no.

 

[Dessire]

As I said earlier, to accomplish this feat the city needs to be producing approximately 3 fps and 6 goods per tile. As far as I know, there are no buildings with this level of efficiency. 3 fps per tile, yes. 6 goods per tile, yes. Combined, no.

That does not mean there is no way to achieve that, and I am very impressed about how some veterans playera can't figure out how to do it -.-

By the way, it shouldtake you like 18 months min. To achieve that if you have the correct buildings.

 

[Pericles the Lion]

That does not mean there is no way to achieve that, and I am very impressed about how some veterans playera can't figure out how to do it -.-

By the way, it shouldtake you like 18 months min. To achieve that if you have the correct buildings.

Just as I thought. What you are describing is a theoretical city, not something that you have actually accomplished. I think that it is not possible with buildings currently available.

 

[Deleted User - 244520]

Doubt there is much mystery here. Yes, if you collect just once a day, that doesn't seem to be possible, but there are items that make it possible to collect more than once. How often you can do this depends on the buildings you have. E.g. 15 nutcrackers and a ton of Jesters can boost your goods/FP income pretty heavily.

That's another question how likely it is you can do that for free, within 18 months, didn't do the math.