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Feedback New Feature - Show Hall

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DeletedUser7942

Guest
lots of comments on this, not sure why, is it really all that controversial? Anyway, my suggestion is, if it hasn't already been suggested, is an Active checkmark in the settings that disables all features of it if one wishes. And can we get an Active checkmark for diamond pop ups on building buildings finish now.PNG while we're at it? That always drove me nuts, thanks.;)

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DeletedUser5097

Guest
No need to create multiple accounts. I have 16 cities at the EN server (same account, same player name "Darrth Eugene Vader").
  • EN4 Dinegu: the first one is at OF Era, close to reach the end the OF Continent Map (that map is still a continent one, right?), but still got tech pending to research / unlock.
  • Got probably just one (1) city in each of the following eras: CE / Post Modern / Modern
  • Got multiple cities in EMA. HMA, LMA, and Colonial eras
  • And just at this week started BA cities at the last two (2) worlds created after Odhrorvar,
  • Plus my Iron Age city at Beta server nearly 1 month old.
So, can I represent end-game players? starting-game players?, middle-game players? pre-Ragu treason game players? post Ragu treason game players? and/or whatever other type of game players exists?
Thanks for reminding me, you'r right.:) I also have to said I just started on live an second
active world. At first to try out the gameplay from an new player with all the new stuff. Must
said a lot did change. So am I now also an BA / End-game player?:p Anyways good point,
so basicly the argument that end-game players are the largest number on the forum is
a bit not accured.
A new resource usefull to adquire something new? Like Tavern Silver to get extra GE negotiation turns? or bonus that only with GBs you would previously obtain?

If Tavern Silver can be used to get supplies boosts (like LOA / RAH), coins boosts (like St Marks), attack boosts (like Zeus, COA, CDM), defense boost (like Deal Castle / St Basils)... can a new resource be used to get / simulate the rewards from other GBs like Dynamic Tower? Temple of Relics? Voyager? Artic Orangery?
Kinda, I was aiming on the consumebles of events.:) An new ressource could have
the potention to giving the showlhall some way of use from an player point of view.;)
 

DeletedUser1418

Guest
Like what? Instead of just complaining about everything, I for one am curious to hear some suggestions on what you WOULD like to see and I don't even work for the company.

I think you have the wrong expectation coming into this server and these feedback threads, to be honest. I figured out almost right off the bat that I'm not a developer here (because, obviously, I am not), and I don't have any direct say in what does or does not happen in the game and it's never been set up that way. Why haven't you learned that yet?

InnoGames makes a 180° turn by introducing adds. The server was once private, only interacts directly with the player, and players among players. Now they've opened aka cheapens up to the world of advertisers, who loves to spy in our daily lives, knows what you see and open, drops a little cookie we call spyware (who knows may become malware), literally makes you decide which car to buy.... even if you're 12 years old. And worse, the community managers goes full in defense for this so-called feature, which really isn't. Morally this game has sunk and sunk deep, and will find itself in the gutter in the foreseeable future.
 

DeletedUser7239

Guest
InnoGames makes a 180° turn by introducing adds. The server was once private, only interacts directly with the player, and players among players. Now they've opened aka cheapens up to the world of advertisers, who loves to spy in our daily lives, knows what you see and open, drops a little cookie we call spyware (who knows may become malware), literally makes you decide which car to buy.... even if you're 12 years old. And worse, the community managers goes full in defense for this so-called feature, which really isn't. Morally this game has sunk and sunk deep, and will find itself in the gutter in the foreseeable future.

Agree.
Lets see how they will handle this, in my main would many people are already thinking in leaving the game if this come to live server.
 

DeletedUser8150

Guest
While i'm not especially keen on the SH people really need to ease off. Too much of this discussion is getting ridiculously hyperbolic. Frankly the community managers don't deserve this level of grief.

Until we see a more worked through proposal I'm not sure there much to be gained.
 
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Thunderbummy

Marquis
All the time that using the show hall is a matter of individual choice, I have no problem. The very first time that it becomes a quest or daily challenge task, etc. I am gone. It is easy enough to ignore features that you don't like when they are optional but I will be seriously offended if it ever follows the current You Tube trend of forcing an advert on users.

I fully understand the needs of any commercial enterprise to maximize revenue and profit, however if Diamond revenue is failing to maintain Inno Games in the manner to which they have become accustomed they would be better advised to examine the root cause of that issue. I suspect they will find that it is related to the high cost of diamonds when compared with the rewards that they deliver. It would probably also be beneficial to examine the revenue around the main events. Once upon a time I was happy to buy diamonds to secure what are "effectively game changing prize buildings" from events. Since the increasing trend of "lucky dip" scenarios have been introduced, I have stopped spending real money. Along with the vast majority of sane people, I want to know what I will get for my money, not buy the chance to possibly, maybe get something I want but more likely get a load of rubbish that I don't. If I wanted to gamble, I would go to a casino, at least there is the possibility of a cash reward. I fear that I am ever more inclined towards console type games where I make one payment, play for as long as I want to and am not put under constant time pressure to complete something; especially when they deliver significantly better graphics for substantially less cost than a decent sized diamond pack.
 

NormaJeane

Viceroy
... And worse, the community managers goes full in defense for this so-called feature, which really isn't. ...

I hardly ever place a comment from my personal standpoint, however now I really feel a need to do so. I do not know other FoE community managers, but for many a year I've been moderating alongside Zarok Dai and I do know her as a very integer and hard working person :)

As some other forum users who replied in this thread already noted: our community manager is only the messenger.
Also: I really have not seen her go into 'full defense' o_O for the Show Hall 'feature' .

Not only I, but all members of the beta-team know how dedicated Zarok Dai is:
• Specifically in correctly representing feedback in her reports to InnoGames!
What InnoGames does with the feedback and in what timespan is not up to any CM, but up to InnoGames as a company.

Our Community Manager Zarok Dai is as always simply our interface with InnoGames as a company - both for the community as well as for our beta-team - and imo she is doing a darned good job! :cool:

EDIT: NormaJeane - 2018-03-14 - Edited my first line since originally it seemed as if it was solely directed at pcsurgeon;
I have changed this first line to clarify that I wanted to express my personal view.
 
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DeletedUser1418

Guest
I hardly ever place a comment from my personal standpoint, however now I really feel a need to do so...
What InnoGames does with the feedback and in what timespan is not up to any CM, but up to InnoGames as a company.

Although I'm quoted it this personal response, my message never attacked CM or a person in particular. My observation is however that FoE's new so called feature gets defended so well here, and that not a single CM distance themselves from it. So, we the player feel the big distance, we are struck hard with this "big brother feature" and we really don't any piece of the pie - not even a crumb.
 

thephantom

Emperor
InnoGames
Although I'm quoted it this personal response, my message never attacked CM or a person in particular. My observation is however that FoE's new so called feature gets defended so well here, and that not a single CM distance themselves from it. So, we the player feel the big distance, we are struck hard with this "big brother feature" and we really don't any piece of the pie - not even a crumb.
There is only one CM here, there aren't multiple. A CM pretty much doesn't really get to attach or detach/distance themselves from anything. They pass along to the development team what's said by players, and they present to players what information they have from the development team. Unlike popular opinion, what a CM writes here isn't what they're writing to the development team - trust me I'm been there myself - so you shouldn't see them as an enemy or defender or something like that. They're a communication channel.

I also see concerns about security and data and all that being addressed by them in a previous post in this thread because it was a point raised by many. If something isn't addressed then it would be helpful for them to know what specifically, so they can follow up on it.
 

DeletedUser1418

Guest
There is only one CM here, there aren't multiple...

Moderators then :p
My experience, being part of beta and live, is that everything goes live - even the errors! Never mind us here...

No matter our concerns or what not's, whether our voices reaches the devs or not, InnoGames will continue and add-invest "our" game on the live servers, we've in the past paid for...
If they wanna push add's , do it on fresh new worlds - not on existing ones. That you may pass on on my behalf...
 

Miepie

Baronet
The impression I get from the responses from inno, is that you're justifying that hall, no matter what. Security issues have not been properly adressed, privacy issue have not been properly adressed, both are swept away as if they are not real issues and no reason to abort this thing no one in their right mind wants. I get it, you are anticipating on new laws against ingame gamble options and the expected loss of income it will lead to And with that you are selling out your customers. And if that is not what you're intending to do, then provide an opt-out option, to ensure me I won't be bothered with those commercials and more importantly, my system won't be infected with trackers and cookies and all those questionable rubbish. If you want to make more money, start improving your events so people actually want to spend more diamonds on them.
 

DeletedUser7239

Guest
Very simple:
When I connect clean I connect 2 domains: http://prntscr.com/ir737b

Since this terrible add-feature I connect to 22 domains...
http://prntscr.com/ir71v2
and http://prntscr.com/ir72cc
and http://prntscr.com/ir72jp

Cristal clear, don't you think?

Lets see if anything bad happens with stolen info or something worst, how they will handle it. major lack of respect for players.
They are fast to put that FS back there again, but slow to solve game issues.
We the players are the stupid ones, everyone should spend zero until you learn your lesson.
Ps: i am dying to see how USA community will react since they take privacy very serious :D
 
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DeletedUser8800

Guest
your data is being sold
How unenlightened are you people exactly... >.< all it does is try to persuade you into buying something or just tracking you with a cookie, which can be cleared or you can just use a VPN.
 
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RedRed

Viceroy
You were already tracked, from very very long time (and almost everywhere.. facebook buttons f.e. are everywhere in internet and fb can know everything you visit during the day)...

just look at the live servers... :rolleyes:

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Use a browser with integrated ad blocker or don't turn off your ad blocker extension and all it's fine (well, at most... you have always a sort of blurry fingerprint mixing informations shared by your browser)... otherwise, you have to accept the tracking (advertisers have to check and trust that the stream is played before paying, so its very unlikely that will be handled totally by the inno without a "third eye" looking into...)

Security of streams and fairness of the rewards are different things...
 
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