MJ Artisan of War
Baronet
But luckily it stays nerfed on beta for many more seasons..... woo-hoo.....
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Discussion Guild Battlegrounds Watchtower and Siege Camp Ability Re-balance
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-Alin-
Emperor
None forces You to play GbG, I quit it few weeks ago, and just fighting here and there when needed, time and real life stuff, university, etc are more important now for me.
As for GbG and half of Forge of Empires is dead to me already, I do care about events and GE, are the single things that I play now, and arranging my city with better stuff and efficiency.
I'm glad to see that GBG is going to be revisited again. I reckon that many players didn't like the nerf, but I also hoped it wouldn't go back to its original balancing. Let's see what happens 
1BFA
Viceroy
So...nothing is happening for now...
https://forum.beta.forgeofempires.com/index.php?threads/guild-battlegrounds-watchtower-and-siege-camp-ability-re-balance.15645/#post-147736
Yekk
Viceroy
The problem is Inno now admits the minuscule nerf was not enough. That balancing which has been asked for for the last 3 years is needed... 6 months of the nerf here already and another 6 months to get fixes which should have been in the nerf. I can not call this a win for Inno or the players in any way...
Demeter7
Squire
I really think that many may lose interest in GBG. I was looking forward to "something" happening early this year. I really don't think that it will be any fun spending another year getting bounced up and down between getting beached by greedy guilds in upper diamond down to working with slower guilds.
Many already have lost interest. While diamond's been starting to get smaller, platinum rounds have only gotten more sad. I had one platinum round in a recent season that was reminiscent of old silver rounds. End of the first day : "Hey we're the only guild with a province!" Which given that I didn't really want to play at the time anyways was just fine with me
Owl II
Emperor
Clarify what you meant by "starting to get smaller".
I personally do not like the delay of the changes...
On the other hand, especially if the further changes should be related to matchmaking, I think it is reasonable to roll out a full package of changes instead of one change at a time.
On the other hand, especially if the further changes should be related to matchmaking, I think it is reasonable to roll out a full package of changes instead of one change at a time.
ArklurBeta
Baronet
Just as I said months ago, not touching anything else but how SCs work is not enough.
- What about other buildings like Traps and Fortresses? I expect on Beta these are hardly ever placed, on Live it's much more different (depends on the server, as some servers lean towards mostly farming, others do fight for the 1st spot)
- Rewards, especially the buildings you can only obtain from GBG?
- As others mentioned, changes regarding matchmaking?
- ...etc?
Thunderdome
Emperor
So basically, no changes are happening despite the many pages of this discussion saying otherwise.
Wake me up when we get a change that is beneficial that I can at least have a fancy to try.
Wake me up when we get a change that is beneficial that I can at least have a fancy to try.
I mean the number of guilds in diamond is less than it was at its peak on the older servers I play on.
Owl II
Emperor
"When"? You are an optimist. I would say "If".
This is unreasonable optimism too, though
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mcbluefire
Baronet
While I definitely appreciate the update (and on a weekend, no less!) I really feel they should pull the single nerf from Beta so the folks who love their beta cities can work on them as much as like live until the multiple changes are ready to be released. Also, this should help prevent any issues in live that are not caught in beta due to the difference. I don't think I'm alone in experiencing many more "An error has occurred," "Sorry and Internal Error has occured" in the middle of a two defender battle, or "Error 500, internal server errors" in GbG over the last couple of months than I have in years prior. While it may all be due to FoE Helper listeners or display of FP while in GbG I think there may be something with the Inno code as well..
Owl II
Emperor
It is interesting. The number of diamond guilds in all the old worlds known to me stabilized in the summer of 2020 and has not changed since then. What you are talking about can only mean that the total number of guilds has become smaller in your worlds.
Gunder Gunderson
Farmer
"eventually adjust or postpone any of our original plans, including the GBG changes"
strategic retreat without losing face ^^
No changes needed.
It's the players' fault if they can't fit into strong guilds and then only lose.
Join a strong guild, be a team-player, have fun --> problem solved.
strategic retreat without losing face ^^
No changes needed.
It's the players' fault if they can't fit into strong guilds and then only lose.
Join a strong guild, be a team-player, have fun --> problem solved.
Total number of "participating" guilds, yes (participating being loosely defined as remaining signed up
A guild that doesn't re-signup to battlegrounds after an inactive season doesn't count). I recall it as over 60 diamond guilds at peak and it's been at 51-52 for the last few months. I believe participation levels have plummeted overall as noted by platinum rounds that feel like silver used to. And the natural extension of that is some guilds that have slipped further to just not playing it.
And GBG turns into GvG with the majority of the game's population ignoring it
It is the direction it's headed, and this is not an outcome inno is going to want.Yekk
Viceroy
I am also seeing the number of guilds in Diamond as lowering. The quality also is less with more pure platinum guilds staying longer in D-lite and 1K.
I'm sorry but I don't understand.
As much as I appreciate seeing that you are not ignoring us by posting a message about the GbG, but my level of English is insufficient to define whether it is a lack of respect or a refusal to recognize your wrongs.
If you are aware that the nerf alone is not enough, why not integrate now the second phase of testing for a possible balancing?
The whole community is unanimous on matchmaking!
If you know that GBG is important for players, why put off other changes?
I suspect that you are busy with the future age and the anniversary event, but do not forget that it has been 7 months that we undergo this test without any transparency on your part.
Failing to change your test, you could at least inform us about the axes of reflection taken by the team in charge of GbG.