Or simply prioritize the calculation of traps BEFORE that of camps.
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Discussion Guild Battlegrounds Watchtower and Siege Camp Ability Re-balance
- Thread starter Juber
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Restricting league access on anything other than results is a nonstarter that creates more problems than it solves. There's plenty of guilds with lots of members that are flat-out weaker than guilds with fewer but much more active members.
Rather if you're trying to make diamond more exclusive, what you need to do is lose the zero-sum league table sooner than diamond. i.e. if platinum and gold groups are destroying points (at a lower rate) as well as diamond, diamond *will* gradually shrink because less of the copper points will propagate up. And lower leagues will have more meaning.
It doesn't change that whatever the size of diamond, the weak guilds need to want to be there. But it would help shrink the problem of the #100 MMR guild being able to jump to face the #1 guild in one season.
Macha
Squire
why dont they have reason? How many small/medium guild have taken in players that the big guilds wouldn't look at, they give them goods for gbs, they grow the gbs for them, they teach them how to play the game & it obviously works as the guilds work their way up through the leagues & find themselves in diamond, they do their best & put in a good effort & arent disappointed to finish 3rd or 4th, then what happens? with the help of 3rd party sites the top 2 guilds can check to see who the main fighters were in these guilds & in the few days break between gbg seasons they do their utmost best to recruit these players with promises of endless fights, huge rewards & for some the false praise & ego boost they get is hard to resist
So maybe this is another reason that when guilds see who they are against & know they cant swap sectors the leaders dont make a big push on their players because to do so puts a target on them
lacsapgaah
Farmer
But when Inno ranks the best guilds together in the same league, we get a shower of laments from the big guilds that can't eat enough.
When they fall against opponents of equal strength, they cry and demand small guilds.
Big guilds always brag about their organization, but they are only strong against small guilds
thelegend88
Squire
So is this thing staying on beta only for now or coming to live servers for a test? And when?
Ted the huge
Farmer
Proposal:
Eliminate seige camps wactowers decoys and traps. Make attrition based on distance from base. Starts at no attrition fighting from base. Then increases by 33% each tile away. When you get 5 tiles away your attrition goes up by 2 instead of one.
Make a trial run on live server for one round.
Eliminate seige camps wactowers decoys and traps. Make attrition based on distance from base. Starts at no attrition fighting from base. Then increases by 33% each tile away. When you get 5 tiles away your attrition goes up by 2 instead of one.
Make a trial run on live server for one round.
Pericles the Lion
Emperor
The map would end up looking like a sliced pizza and guilds would likely only be able to battle the two guilds adjacent to them.
Dessire
Regent
In my guild we are happy with this change and for sure we want it in live servers.
Positive things about this change:
- no more unlimited fights from top players and/or players with a lot of attack %, that means they are more vulnerable
- now each top abussive guilds must think well which sectors take and which not, allowing small or mid level guilds have more chances to have sectors near their bases because sectors near the HQ have low points. Top players can't do unlimited fights with no attrition anymore so the idea of steal a sector with low points near of the HQ of a small guild or mid level guild will become a low priority
- the usage of other buildings like traps, statues, fortress, etc. will become a more usual thing. building a fortress to increase the required amount of points to conquer a sector can now penalize the enemy!! before this change, building fortress only helped enemy guilds to do more free fights with due siege camps.
- now, the help of each member becomes more important than ever, before, only a few strong players were required to abusse the whole map thanks to siege camps
- now, more members of a guild will have the chance to do fights and earn rewards. before, strong and abussive players had all the fights for themselves and low/mid level members didn't have even the chance of do a decent amount of fights
Negative things about this change:
- we are going to drown due all the tears of those abussive toxic fighters who only want to have the whole mape filled up with siegecamps to do a lot of fights . . oh , . .wait a minute, that is a good thing! bring those oceans of tears! XD
Positive things about this change:
- no more unlimited fights from top players and/or players with a lot of attack %, that means they are more vulnerable
- now each top abussive guilds must think well which sectors take and which not, allowing small or mid level guilds have more chances to have sectors near their bases because sectors near the HQ have low points. Top players can't do unlimited fights with no attrition anymore so the idea of steal a sector with low points near of the HQ of a small guild or mid level guild will become a low priority
- the usage of other buildings like traps, statues, fortress, etc. will become a more usual thing. building a fortress to increase the required amount of points to conquer a sector can now penalize the enemy!! before this change, building fortress only helped enemy guilds to do more free fights with due siege camps.
- now, the help of each member becomes more important than ever, before, only a few strong players were required to abusse the whole map thanks to siege camps
- now, more members of a guild will have the chance to do fights and earn rewards. before, strong and abussive players had all the fights for themselves and low/mid level members didn't have even the chance of do a decent amount of fights
Negative things about this change:
- we are going to drown due all the tears of those abussive toxic fighters who only want to have the whole mape filled up with siegecamps to do a lot of fights . . oh , . .wait a minute, that is a good thing! bring those oceans of tears! XD
sirblu
Baronet
Actually, Owl II is correct. GvG can only be played in a browser version and with the increase of players on the mobile version, INNO tried for a long time to revamp GvG for the mobile user before finally coming out and saying that it was just not possible. That's when they came out with GbG so it could be played on both browser and mobile versions.
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Owl II
Emperor
Medium guilds will be a farm-team for the strong always. This is a law of nature, not FOE law. But if the composition of the tops is formed and stable currently, and there is only a small natural migration, then I congratulate you! Now everything will start all over again. Meet the new wave of shuffling, like 2 years ago. And guess who will drown in it?
Thunderdome
Emperor
The guilds could have done this at any time before the change happened. I'm just saying as this "one size fits all" change brings nothing new other than stifling the mid to low players from doing GBg in terms of rising attrition, and possibly getting kicked out of guilds for not being able to make the quotas as a result. The up to the end player won't feel much other than having less fights to deal with unless he or she is in a guild that requires thousands of fights per season.
trayk
Steward
so, in essence, they advanced far beyond their true capabilities? Inno, FIX THE LEAGUE Calculations FIRST. The scrub guilds need to be in platinum at best if they cant play with the big boys. Or make a new league beyond Diamond. What ever it is, get on it!
TheSovereign
Farmer
What the heck is all the hate of farmers all about???
Zuckerberg the Horrid
Squire
This definitely does NOT look beautiful to me.. only 5 sectors have a lock symbol on them. If the map looked like that in my guild I'd be firing people. Being proud of this is shameful.
trayk
Steward
but its SO good for those little guilds. See the one on the right that cant even take the 4 tier stuff next to its HQ in 3 days!!!
conqueror9
Regent
OMG, you do not understand Inno....
Inno will implement what they want to implement no matter what you say <they only change when there is a bug>
Inno 's poll is actually seeking "people to agree the change", so they get a "strong point <most people agree the change> " to "those against the change" to shut up
if it happen, the poll show people do not like the change, they just ignore the poll and take no action at all and maintain the change
It is not the 1st time Inno do things like that. Inno cannot afford a "NO" that result the effort they spend in design office with months of works go to BIN. They can put your "NO" to "bin", not the design work as they are paid to do the design.
CrashBoom
Legend
a no is what they expect
then they will increase the cap to 5 SC
and then have listened to the players
then they will increase the cap to 5 SC
and then have listened to the players
this change didn't even took one hour real work
HunZ95
Squire
Especially since they didn't even think about the proportions, they just brought up an idea from the forum.this change didn't even took one hour real work
However, they have access to statistics, so they could have precisely found the appropriate values if they wanted to introduce such a change.