mcbluefire
Baronet
At least we can all go read the feedback thread now. I'm on page 5.
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Discussion Guild Battlegrounds Watchtower and Siege Camp Ability Re-balance
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jovada
Regent
Well after a few hours that GBG is reversed again , you see that egoïsm and farming rules again, no wonder that those people are happy and saying it feels good.
So we only can hope that the announced changes will bring balance to GBG.
But anyway i give a big finger to inno for letting GBG unbalanced during 3 years even when several players asked for it during all this time, i still think developers must be ashamed for neglecting this.
It has always been stupid that players that have all day time (no matters which reason they have the time) could farm thousand off fp and other rewards while the rest is struggling to catch some rewards and increasing the gap between normal players and greedy players.
If inno could'nt see the disproportions during all these years i really doubt the capacity of the developers.
So we only can hope that the announced changes will bring balance to GBG.
But anyway i give a big finger to inno for letting GBG unbalanced during 3 years even when several players asked for it during all this time, i still think developers must be ashamed for neglecting this.
It has always been stupid that players that have all day time (no matters which reason they have the time) could farm thousand off fp and other rewards while the rest is struggling to catch some rewards and increasing the gap between normal players and greedy players.
If inno could'nt see the disproportions during all these years i really doubt the capacity of the developers.
Vic.Vicious
Marquis
This is one reason I always hated using the forum. You are saying that people are greedy because they use a different strategy than you in a strategy game. Gbs are costing 30k plus on certain levels and you think farming is greedy? Normal player? Like what are you talking about? You need to get some rest and try again. If you don’t have time to farm and get rewards, I should wait around for you, so I don’t seem greedy? Play a different game or give up but don’t label people for grinding fp. The more I get from GBG, The less I have to snipe! But I’m going to get it! That’s a fact!
jovada
Regent
So if i read you well you don't want a balanced game , no effort, just join a guild with a huge treasury and farm all day long? What a strategy i take my hat off in admiration.
Vic.Vicious
Marquis
"IF" is the key word. I'm sure you are not reading me well. Slowing down the flow of fp helps no one. After gbg opened, the threads started moving and the smaller cities started leveling gbs like crazy. Thats good to see. More smaller cities will have the goods to finish GE as well. Take a hard look at balance and know what it means in FOE. I'm not even thinking about me. Like I said........Imma get mine regardless.
jovada
Regent
You just confirm it is all about farming for you , (you get yours regardless) balance , disproportion, gameplay you don't care.
Vic.Vicious
Marquis
Whatever you say. No need for me to entertain you being judgemental. Have good one! Stay safe! Forge on!
Personally, I don't mind that some take advantage by maxing out GbG to earn more.
What bothers me is that their greed blocks the guides who find themselves against them, without having wanted to, and are forced to remain a mere spectator for 2 weeks.
So either Inno prevent you from cultivating GbGs all day long without increasing your attrition (which would make the point of having created attrition null) or Inno must allow guilds to be grouped together according to their abilities or their desires (because there we are imposed without any possibility of managing the difficulty).
What bothers me is that their greed blocks the guides who find themselves against them, without having wanted to, and are forced to remain a mere spectator for 2 weeks.
So either Inno prevent you from cultivating GbGs all day long without increasing your attrition (which would make the point of having created attrition null) or Inno must allow guilds to be grouped together according to their abilities or their desires (because there we are imposed without any possibility of managing the difficulty).
Retired Guy
Marquis
With Inno's current track record.. you really gotta wonder if they meant to put the Beta nerfing into Live, but instead slipped up, and put Live into Beta.. ;-) ;-) Although I kinda hated the nerfing at the beginning, it sure grew on me quick.. I found much more family and personal time, and no need to get up at some ungodly hour to do a 4hr map rotation.. I'm all in favor of putting the nerfing back in!
The main concern of these "tests" in beta is precisely that the beta is not representative of what we meet on live servers.
On the FR server, only one world has opted for a charter prohibiting, in diamond league, to take the sector in front of the HQ.
Thus each guide, even spectator, has during 2 weeks of a sector with 1 or 2 camps to type around, even without being able to take. This charter allows all guilds to never remain a spectator if they want to type daily.
This charter was put in place by the 4 or 5 strongest guilds and with a good general mentality, it was accepted by all the guilds.
But still on the FR server, it did not have the same success on the other worlds, proof that the mentality of the players is not the same on each world of the same server and therefore impossible for the beta to be representative of all the worlds from all live servers.
On the FR server, only one world has opted for a charter prohibiting, in diamond league, to take the sector in front of the HQ.
Thus each guide, even spectator, has during 2 weeks of a sector with 1 or 2 camps to type around, even without being able to take. This charter allows all guilds to never remain a spectator if they want to type daily.
This charter was put in place by the 4 or 5 strongest guilds and with a good general mentality, it was accepted by all the guilds.
But still on the FR server, it did not have the same success on the other worlds, proof that the mentality of the players is not the same on each world of the same server and therefore impossible for the beta to be representative of all the worlds from all live servers.
Beta is also a semi-sleeper server. Quite a number of players only play whenever something of interest arrives. Most noticeable are new ages. Sometimes “new” players join beta just for the event. Hence why they get disappointed that they’re forced to start from 0. That been said, some play at beta like it’s a normal server. Which is a unique perk of Forge. As many other games open and closing their Beta’s with a hard reset in between.
Yekk
Regent
On beta it cost Inno money paying players. Imagine if it made it to live... That FoE layoff would have been twice as big. I would love to see the reports the CM sent to his bosses. Someone's head needs to roll. I too saw some benefits but voted no as the problems in GBG were still there. Problems Inno ignored.
End result was another year wasted waiting on Inno...
Grzechu Junior
Baronet
There is one problem with GB, lack of rewards for WINNING.
Take form us single rewards, give better rewards at end.
It is all that GB needs.
If the reward for the 1st place will be much better than for 2nd place - there will be no exchanges and chesboards. Only fights.
Take form us single rewards, give better rewards at end.
It is all that GB needs.
If the reward for the 1st place will be much better than for 2nd place - there will be no exchanges and chesboards. Only fights.
I agreed, got the same idea for a long time back already. All they need to do is raising the stakes, winning = winning and losing = losing something real for the guild. Not like this where it doesn't matter.
Another thing that must be adressed is the 4h-slot exploit and the pending 159/160. Many suggestions where made. It's up to Inno at this point how to address it. Some desperate attempts to undermine the solutions are from time to time also made but that are just the exploiters justifying the exploits to secure future personal gain. Without that exploit addressed, it doesn't matter what the stakes are. Because whoever manages to pull off abusing the the 4h-slot becomes invincible.
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Grzechu Junior
Baronet
this is not the problem, this is strategy. You can force close, than win. It all depends on number of active player on races.
Dont understand 4th slot abuse.
CrashBoom
Legend
don't show the progress of other guilds in a sector
and if the game changes then you have to adjust your strategy
level up voucher for great buildings (like the ones for Zeus, Aachen, CdM a few decades ago)
every player of the winner guild in diamond get one full voucher
2nd place guild players only 50%, 3rd 33%, 4th 25% and so on (as fragments obviously)
(or 1 full, 50%, 25%, 12.5%, 6.25%, ...)
wouldn't it be awesome to get one free level for a GB that is already at level 150 or higher
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Precisely what I mean. Anyone can justify it any way they want. Fact remains: it's an exploit. Enabling invincibility which was something that plagued the GvG too
Don't grant 4h invincibilitydon't show the progress of other guilds in a sector
Grzechu Junior
Baronet
i dont get what is 4th slot abuse. Can you explain?
if you are talking about not llsijg points for 4h place - i think thats 2nd place should lose points.