There is nothing in the tech tree which unlocks a specific GB. This is not in the game anywhere, you're just making things up to try to prove your point but you honestly don't have much of a point beyond you feel it's not
The first sentence of your is something i never said was there. I said GBs are in eras. To prove that you can simply go to any FoE wiki and look up GB info and you will notice how GBs are categorized. They have eras. I never said that the tech tree unlocks GE.
Advanced GBs are 1) In accordance with the rules standards and legitimate and are achieved by not cheating or trying to achieve UNJUST advantage. So unless you are saying they GBs are a blonde bout of good weather by the very definition of the word you are wrong.
The Fair definition does make it clear that trying to achieve an unjust advantage part, which clearly is happening with some of these GBs. How can you say you that you got the resources for inno tower as fair?
Lets think about that for a sec.Inno tower requirements:
550 Electromagnets ( achieved from MAGNET FACTORY. MAGNET FACTORY requirement:
Contemporary Era and
Automation tech .)
200 plastic ( achieved from .requirement:
Contemporary Era, and
Petroleum Industry tech. )
250 Bionic data ( achieved from .requirement:
Contemporary Era, and
Bionics tech. )
500 Robots ( achieved from .requirement:
Contemporary Era, and
Automation tech. )
250 GAS ( achieved from LNG PLANT. LNG PLANT requirement:
Contemporary Era, and
Petroleum Industry tech. )
For the most part it seems that players did not achieve such tech or era at all. Not even for an era before Contemporary Era. Lets look at it another way,
Did you/others reach the "
Contemporary Era"?
Did you/others research "
Automation", "
Petroleum Industry" and "
Bionics" technologies?
Did you/others put up
9,386 Forge points to be at the gates of
Contemporary Era? This means you only finished
PME but have yet to research any tech in CE to be considered CE.
By doing the math on fps ( info from this wiki
http://forgeofempires.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Age ) that is how many fp's you would need to be in that era. Now someone who just bothered to go only to Industrial age, would only need
4,836 fps. Doing that math it seems someone is
4,550 fps away...I would say thats quite a lot. Slightly less than what they clearly have achieved themselves. Lets not forget that they still would need to research the proper techs to get those plants that produce those goods that they need to collect for the Inno tower.
Enough with the fps math, lets go to the resources you need. Did you actually get the raw resources to build the stuff the plant requires? No? You don't say....Ok, I'll give u the benefit of a doubt and say u were an era before and traded them with someone. Thats great! That's what trading is for. But did you have the resources from PME to trade it in for? no? wow....seems kinda unfair now doesn't it. Ok then, taking into example that a player might be in the Industrial era....that said player would be about 3 eras behind ( not counting INA itself )....that means that in order to get 200 plastics he would have to trade at a ratio of 2:1, 400 PME goods for 200 CE. 800 ME goods for those 400 PME, and for those 800 ME he would have had to trade 1600 PE goods. Im not saying its not possible to do so, but it sure as hell is not easy. And thats assuming you find the right people willing to trade with you along the way. And this is just for 200 CE goods....The number goes higher for 250 bionic data and gas, Further higher for 500 Robotics and 550 electromagnetic.
That is all under the assumption that you played 'fair'.
Now if u had friends and guildmates help you get those good in a 1:1 trade ratio, then it's quite obvious that they want to help you get something that you yourself don't want to put in the work. Hence why your not leveling up at least to be in PME. That too me sounds like an undjust advantage.
How can you have the audacity to claim 'fair' and 'just' because you had friends or guildmates Give you the stuff needed either in one or several trades? IF this information does not prove to you that it is an UNJUST ADVANTAGE by slashing the required FP to research, The goods requirement and the Tech requirement ( which doesn't include how many fp's u had to spend on the continental map to get those resources for trading ), then You my friend are need to look at this several times to understand it.
But I'm sure someone as bright as you will understand what is fair and what is an unjust advantage.
Is that because you played the game via the rules and set your city up according to your play style as the game allows? Funny, as did I.
Funny that it is, because I did not go outside of my era and leaped across to get benefits that are meant to aid someone in that era. Hence why its an exploit.
I have no problems within my era. I have the solutions, you just don't seem to like them though if doesn't effect you AT ALL. You have also not provided a single way in which this effects the game negatively
Your solutions are to cut your research, cut ur resource goods req's, cut just about anything req'd to reach such era or goods. How is that even solving a problem within your era? All the perks you mentioned are the perks that are unfair and impact other players negatively whom want to get first place in PvP, GE, and/or GvG. Don't know how much more clearer it can be.
I've broken zero rules, never even bent them.
Ive never said you had. That was your own personal assumption.
Why, by any stretch of the imagination, should they respond to you when every person who has responded to this thread including the CM disagreed with you?
A disagreement is not a valid point to make in which your stating that your right because the majority agree with your point of view. If such things were true in life then women wouldn't be allowed to vote, slavery would still exist, and other horrible things in life would still have remained. But thats going off topic, just felt the need to mention it as it helped prove my point about what a disagreement really proves.
t would seem the logic leading you to the conclusion 'everyone else is wrong and I am so right I deserve a 1 on 1 with a dev'
That seems to be an assumption of yours. I've never said otherwise.
You feel as though you deserve more than others but shouldn't have to work as others do to get them
Again, another of your assumptions. I never stated that I deserve more than others. I simply am making a suggestion in the 'feedback' section of this forum. I gave my reasons as to why. The title itself is a clear indicator about what I am talking about. Nothing in it say 'need' or 'deserve'. But I can see why you would assume that.
...Every loss should come with a participation trophy of equal measure and dare one person achieve what you did not. And you don't just want to prevent your perceived injustices from happening in the future, you actually want to take them away from those who have already earned and worked for them.
Another assumption of yours. I do have to agree on the 2nd part of that quote. To some extent having a more fair and balanced GB rule and req's endorse would prevent future injustices among players. The last part of me wanting to 'take them away' from those that 'worked for them', is inaccurate. I said I want to deactivate it until they reach either the era prior to that GB or that GBs era itself. I would happily also settle with letting them keep them but as of XYZ date have a req' that they must be one era or within the same era to build them.
All so you can FEEL like something is more (the incorrect definition) of fair, when in truth nothing would change for you and your game.
I do feel that making such req's possible would make it fair for all. Whether it changes or not, only time will tell. Hence why I brought my concern and feedback into the 'feedback' section of the forums. Glad you got a few things right so far.
For the game to change the rules now and take away something from players which was earned by them that is what would actually be unfair given the definition of the word.
Agreed. It would seem harsh and unfair. So is cutting FP's, resources, and technology requirements. So with all being said and laid out, what would u suggest be a better way to approach it, without leaving it as it currently stands? Keep in mind that it is in regards to GB era hopping that my concerns are on. As far as those that already have them, I would agree to let them keep it and their perks but any future players would have to abide by the requirement. So what would your feedback be as you yourself now know what is 'fair' and an 'unjust advantage'?