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Feedback Tenth Anniversary Event

MooingCat

Viceroy
Spoiler Poster
The +5 for each Rush Quest is a start, but no where close to enough. That's 5*37 = 185, so a bit under 2 dice rolls. So you're still unlikely to get the Orrery fully leveled if you spend your currency on 1-2 days, and it's practically impossible if you don't have the event surprise box.
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So you still need to play for the daily goal most days to have a decent chance of getting it fully leveled, though if you don't have the surprise box you're still out of luck.
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A better improvement would be to increase the paper money from 50 to 75 or 100. That would make it pretty much guaranteed to get the building fully leveled if you have the surprise box, and makes it quite possible if you don't.
Spending all on one day:
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Spending all on 1 day:
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Silly Beaver

Merchant
With two days left I have 24 spaces to go to complete event. I had surprise box and have done every daily task and currently caught up. I have 54 paper money left. I will need 4, 6 point dice rolls at a min. to complete without Diamonds. This does not look possible with just the remaining 2 days of quests. I will be able to use game supplied diamonds if necessary to complete but this just looks like we are setting up newer players for failure even if they have the event surprise box.
 

MooingCat

Viceroy
Spoiler Poster
The event mechanics are simple and require little thought, but you're too dependent on luck when it comes to getting the main building fully leveled. The math simply doesn't add up with what you're given. You get 8755 paper money, 88 dice rolls, which comes out to 308 tiles on average. Add in 6-7 golden dice, some incidents, perhaps a few daily goals and some paper money from the upper-right spot and you have a decent chance of getting above the 352 tiles you need on average, but as I showed above there is still a too big chance of not getting it. And of course if you don't have the event surprise box you can forget about it.
 

6zeva9

Baronet
The event mechanics are simple and require little thought, but you're too dependent on luck when it comes to getting the main building fully leveled. The math simply doesn't add up with what you're given. You get 8755 paper money, 88 dice rolls, which comes out to 308 tiles on average. Add in 6-7 golden dice, some incidents, perhaps a few daily goals and some paper money from the upper-right spot and you have a decent chance of getting above the 352 tiles you need on average, but as I showed above there is still a too big chance of not getting it. And of course if you don't have the event surprise box you can forget about it.
Maths may be out a little.
Main building Level 1 to 3 can come from the Events Quest Milestones. These ones so far have paid 1 Golden Dice instead of Paper Money so 6 Golden Dice including free one to start with.
Excluding the Present drops 8,755 Paper Money (88 dice rolls)[Most of us had to do it with 8,570 Paper Money or 86 dice rolls].
Complete Tomorrow Era on the Board to collect the other 7 Main building Levels. That is 13 x 32 square = 416 Squares total with a minimum of 94 Dice. Average roll would need to be just under 4.5 per roll.
Roll only 6 needs 70 Dice, roll only 5 needs 84 Dice, roll only 4 needs 104 Dice, roll only 3 needs 139 Dice, roll only 2 needs 208 Dice. Average would indicate 119 Dice rolls would be needed to get the fully levelled Main Building.
 
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CrashBoom

Legend
With two days left I have 24 spaces to go to complete event. I had surprise box and have done every daily task and currently caught up. I have 54 paper money left. I will need 4, 6 point dice rolls at a min. to complete without Diamonds. This does not look possible with just the remaining 2 days of quests. I will be able to use game supplied diamonds if necessary to complete but this just looks like we are setting up newer players for failure even if they have the event surprise box.
24 spaces left
so that includes the golden dice on the board

and we should use 1 golden dice every round to get the golden dice in that round

so maybe wrong strategy :rolleyes:

(like my wrong coach strategy in forge bowl where

My mistake, sorry. I've always managed to get all upgrade kits w/o diamonds. But in Forge Bowl (or spring event, or the Soccer game, etc.) there is a bad choice (strategy) behind the failure and not bad luck, like in this event.
I only knew AFTER it if that it was a bad strategy
so I missed 1 upgrade

but if I got 2 upgrades too much it would also be a bad strategy
because then I would have missed a few daily specials (I took the +5% coach in forge bowl)



and I again had a bad strategy in this event:
I will most likely have 1 upgrade for Orrery too much
but failed in getting the Golden King/Queen: 4 upgrades (before the change to the kit), no building, no kit (after the change)
 
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CrashBoom

Legend
THE GRAND KING / QUEEN feature sucks

again the ****ing damn wrong 50%

in total: 7 times hitting that field. no building

btw: chance for the wrong 50% in 7 attempts = 0.78%
so actually will happen very often: every 128th player.
 
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Move

Farmer
I've Golden Orrery level 9 without difficulty. Level 10 Tomorrow with the last quest
I've 5 Stages of ages
I've King and Queen at level 2
no problem to finish this without diamonds
 

drakenridder

Overlord
Perk Creator
The problem with this anniversary is that it’s practicality an casino. Even in real casino’s with the hous’ edge against you, the odds are better. The fundamental flaws that lucky players underestimate:
1 random chance to land on king/queen set, unless using golden diced specifically for them
2 50% chance on getting trash or the selection kit
3 it’s an game of chance. As my government has defined such on their official website:
The player has no influence on the outcome of the game. Coincidence decides who the winner is.
In other words if you fail with this it’s not you to blame, cause you have 0 influence on the outcome. It’s just an coincident if you’re lucky enough to either land on the 50% chance for selection kit and getting it or getting trash.

As for feedback. This is anniversary, right? We’re getting spoiled with good stuff and such. Why not giving us like golden dices and daily opportunity to just giving us an selection kit for the new king & queen set? In order to maxing it out you’ll need to finish 3 boards and landing at least 4 days in a row on it. It’s still lucky gambling stuff but way more fair…
 

xivarmy

Overlord
Perk Creator
The problem with this anniversary is that it’s practicality an casino. Even in real casino’s with the hous’ edge against you, the odds are better. The fundamental flaws that lucky players underestimate:
1 random chance to land on king/queen set, unless using golden diced specifically for them
2 50% chance on getting trash or the selection kit
3 it’s an game of chance. As my government has defined such on their official website:
In other words if you fail with this it’s not you to blame, cause you have 0 influence on the outcome. It’s just an coincident if you’re lucky enough to either land on the 50% chance for selection kit and getting it or getting trash.

As for feedback. This is anniversary, right? We’re getting spoiled with good stuff and such. Why not giving us like golden dices and daily opportunity to just giving us an selection kit for the new king & queen set? In order to maxing it out you’ll need to finish 3 boards and landing at least 4 days in a row on it. It’s still lucky gambling stuff but way more fair…

You see you missed the direction noteworthy events go. When it's time for giving, inno expects us to give to them (see: winter event always being one of the least exciting events of the year - and I *like* that mechanic).

So the 10th anniversary event is not about them giving us stuff that would excite us - it's about us having the opportunity to give them $$$ for mediocre crap ;)
 

Owl II

Emperor
You see you missed the direction noteworthy events go. When it's time for giving, inno expects us to give to them (see: winter event always being one of the least exciting events of the year - and I *like* that mechanic).

So the 10th anniversary event is not about them giving us stuff that would excite us - it's about us having the opportunity to give them $$$ for mediocre crap ;)
That is, religion does not allow them to draw some more or less attractive crap in order to count on $$$?
 

beelzebob666

Overlord
Pathfinder
Spoiler Poster
Another Feedback for the golden orrery... I like the change that it only gives supplies and no coins - but the amount is really meh....
golden crops almost gives 10x the amount in coins...
also compare with oracle: at level 10 it already gives 7k supplies - and that is a bronze age GB!!! the supplies in EMA for golden orrery are only ~1.5k
 

Silly Beaver

Merchant
24 spaces left
so that includes the golden dice on the board

and we should use 1 golden dice every round to get the golden dice in that round

so maybe wrong strategy :rolleyes:

(like my wrong coach strategy in forge bowl where


I only knew AFTER it if that it was a bad strategy
so I missed 1 upgrade

but if I got 2 upgrades too much it would also be a bad strategy
because then I would have missed a few daily specials (I took the +5% coach in forge bowl)



and I again had a bad strategy in this event:
I will most likely have 1 upgrade for Orrery too much
but failed in getting the Golden King/Queen: 4 upgrades (before the change to the kit), no building, no kit (after the change)
The golden dice are not a given and how can you use the wrong strategy if the game has never been played before.
 

D-Best

Squire
Very dissapointed. It's a one-time event, why can't you make it enjoyable...
  • There should be only a gift on the board with 50/50 chance of one of the two selection kits.
  • As for the random productions of the main building, I'd like to see fragments for 30min/2h/6h mass supply rush.
Also, this is the first time since I do events when I'm not sure that I'll get all the upgrades without spending diamonds.
 

CrashBoom

Legend
The golden dice are not a given
if you take a golden dice to get a golden dice then you don't lose a golden dice because after that you have still the same amount of golden dice
but moved a little bit on the board.


how can you use the wrong strategy if the game has never been played before
that is very easy: fail in reaching your goal and you have used a wrong strategy

the actual question should have been:
can you know the right strategy to prevent failing ?

maybe with reading this thread and knowing the "golden dice strategy"
use one to get one every round

or the always reach the daily goal strategy
additional 40 paper (on average)
 
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beelzebob666

Overlord
Pathfinder
Spoiler Poster
Even with the 200 additional paper money from the rush quests I likely will not have been able to complete the building - even with the previous event surprise box - I am a bit short.
currently I am 28 fields from the last kit - that is about 9 throws - I only have one golden dice left and about 440 paper money including the rest of the quests (560 if we get daily currency on the last day) - so I will likely be about 300 paper money short - not much and easily replaceable with diamonds, but kind of disappointing...

Surely, I could have gone for the daily progress reward to gain 800 paper money on average - but even that would not have been enough if I did not have the surprise box.

So on live I will likely bite the bullet and invest a couple diamonds if needed - because I can... Others can not...
 

mbk28

Baronet
Hi,

the event finish tomorrow and we don't have the event on mobile.
how do you want we make a test if at 1 day of the end of the event we don't have it on mobile?
 

beelzebob666

Overlord
Pathfinder
Spoiler Poster
if you take a golden dice to get a golden dice then you don't lose a golden dice because after that you have still the same amount of golden dice
but moved a little bit on the board.

yes, but the golden die is replaced with paper money next time round (might be alternating, do not remember)... so when going multiple rounds, you can not invest the golden die each round...
 
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