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Feedback Space Age Venus (SAV)
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Having a settlement open should be enough
Max Shadow
Farmer
with the large amounts of FPs to level up this GB, it does not worth it, imo.
Shankarija
Farmer
puh this GB would be ok if Inno would remove some of those rewards.
those rewards are crap and should't be there:
-1 unit
-supplies
-gold
-blueprints
-aid kit
-rush coins/supply
-medals
otherwhise its not really worth leveling
i could live with all other rewards
those rewards are crap and should't be there:
-1 unit
-supplies
-gold
-blueprints
-aid kit
-rush coins/supply
-medals
otherwhise its not really worth leveling
i could live with all other rewards
The Lady Ann
Baronet
Medals and Blueprints are no reward for higher level players 
These rewards are very poor considering the resources to level. A simple comparison to ToR:
Common
First 5 are the same, the last 2/3 are much better for the Temple of Relics, I think most would agree on that
Uncommon
First 3 are the same, the other 3 are different. Here it's much more up to personal preference, don't think there's too much in it, but I'd definitely not call the Flying Island an improvement.
Rare
*Edit, see announcement for info on it.
First 3 are the same, the next 3 are no question about it much worse for the Flying Island. The goods or FPs are nice, but I think most Space Age Venus players would rather have the buildings to sell to the Antiques Dealer. Medals and BPs are definitely worse.
Considering the additional resources needed to get the Flying Island AND the lower chance of getting shards compared to relics, this list definitely needs an update.
Some suggestions I'd like to see:
Common
| Flying Island | Temple of Relics |
| 20 Forge Points | 20 Forge Points |
| 25 Goods | 25 Goods |
| 5 Units | 5 Units |
| 2 Blueprints | 2 Blueprints |
| 1 Unit | Gate of the Sun God |
| Coins | Face of the Ancient |
| Supplies |
First 5 are the same, the last 2/3 are much better for the Temple of Relics, I think most would agree on that
Uncommon
| Flying Island | Temple of Relics |
| 100 Forge Points | 100 Forge Points |
| 200 Goods | 200 Goods |
| 10 Rogues | 10 Rogues |
| 8 Hour Coins Rush | Ritual Flame |
| 6 Hour Supplies Rush | Tribal Square |
| Mass Self Aid | Small Medals Pack |
First 3 are the same, the other 3 are different. Here it's much more up to personal preference, don't think there's too much in it, but I'd definitely not call the Flying Island an improvement.
Rare
| Flying Island | Temple of Relics |
| One Up Kit | One Up Kit |
| Renovation Kit | Renovation Kit |
| Store Building | Store Building |
| 5 Blueprints | Terrace Farm |
| Medals | Fountain of Youth |
| 150 FPs / 300 Goods* | Sacred Sky Watch |
First 3 are the same, the next 3 are no question about it much worse for the Flying Island. The goods or FPs are nice, but I think most Space Age Venus players would rather have the buildings to sell to the Antiques Dealer. Medals and BPs are definitely worse.
Considering the additional resources needed to get the Flying Island AND the lower chance of getting shards compared to relics, this list definitely needs an update.
Some suggestions I'd like to see:
- Settlement Time Reward Fragments
- Settlement Main Reward Fragments
- Other Buildings
- Better reward amounts compared to ToR
- Removal of Medals, Coins, Supplies, 1 Unit and possibly 2/5 Blueprints.
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podkap1970
Emperor
and it costs a fortune of FPs to level this GBMedals and Blueprints are no reward for higher level players
i don't know this GB looks like a FP grave
Edit: it would be good as no age GB, like ToR, but SAV age GB, i don't know
Amaroke
Farmer
True but what is this :
Mysterious shard:
- Vikings: 300 random goods of your age
- Egyptians: 150 forgepoints
- Japanese: 300 random goods of your age
- Aztecs: 150 forgepoints
Tahrakaiitoo
Marquis
Agreed with most here; the rewards are simply not good enough and not a lot of thought has gone into it, it seems, since there's things like medals and blueprints... Come on... Any player in Venus age isn't going to need that stuff, nor more coins or supplies.
This is a bad, bad GB.
Why not a stack of 'special goods' (martian ore and whatnot)?
Why not higher FP rewards at the rare mark? As it stands now the Uncommon rewards are better than the rare ones.
Why not give a 'universal blueprint' - a blueprint you can use in place of any other bp for any GB.
Why not a box comparable to the HC or SC rewards, where you get to pick from a selection of rewards?
Also; I think it's a missed opportunity to not have a few special extra venus buildings that you'd only be able to get through these shards.
Not many of them, maybe 3. That could've been interesting as well.
Be creative. It really seems as if the devs just copy/pasted the ToR rewards, changed a few things and called it a day.
This is a bad, bad GB.
Why not a stack of 'special goods' (martian ore and whatnot)?
Why not higher FP rewards at the rare mark? As it stands now the Uncommon rewards are better than the rare ones.
Why not give a 'universal blueprint' - a blueprint you can use in place of any other bp for any GB.
Why not a box comparable to the HC or SC rewards, where you get to pick from a selection of rewards?
Also; I think it's a missed opportunity to not have a few special extra venus buildings that you'd only be able to get through these shards.
Not many of them, maybe 3. That could've been interesting as well.
Be creative. It really seems as if the devs just copy/pasted the ToR rewards, changed a few things and called it a day.
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Havik79
Baronet
I wish this forum had a facepalm button, like serious, space, goods, FP, to have the GB, and you literally get free stuff for doing nothing, and people still whing, like for real, yeah maybe it is costly, but it is giving you stuff for simply clicking on a cultural settlement, that is it.
CrashBoom
Legend
coin & supply rush ??
who still has coin only buildings ?
and supply rush is only good for people in events with their blacksmiths (or other supply only buildings)
but what with advanced players which use special buildings instead for those quests and those aren't rushed (like my Magnum Opus)
so how about:
- production building rush instead of supply rush. works for all productions. not only if those are supplies
- all building rush (including GB, townhall,..). nothing big like 8h. a small time. 5 or 15 minutes. would help to move collection time earlier a little bit because that goes later every day
who still has coin only buildings ?
and supply rush is only good for people in events with their blacksmiths (or other supply only buildings)
but what with advanced players which use special buildings instead for those quests and those aren't rushed (like my Magnum Opus)
so how about:
- production building rush instead of supply rush. works for all productions. not only if those are supplies
- all building rush (including GB, townhall,..). nothing big like 8h. a small time. 5 or 15 minutes. would help to move collection time earlier a little bit because that goes later every day
Well I mean there's a threshold where a building is worth building or not. Given how infrequently they come up these days, a GB that's not worth building to someone can be pretty heartbreaking to the type that's looking for a next thing to be excited about.
There's also the matter that some people care that their current age goods have value. The ability to sell those goods to lower age players requires a building a significant number of lower age players want.
I'm probably not going to be in a rush to build this one. I'm ok with that. I'd be more ok if they were committed to releasing a 2nd GB part way through the age and that one might be better. But where I had reasonable hope that might happen in SAAB, now that it didn't I have to presume it won't happen here either. Thankfully I'm not really a goods seller anymore and SAV goods holding no value won't hold me back from entering the age.
Born to be a Banana
Farmer
Just as @MooingCat is pointing it out, this GB needs an update. Rewards are the same (more or less) than the Temple of Relics.
So as we can compare the 2 GBs, let's compare them.
Courtesy of @NinjAlin
Let's say we level them up at level 69, so :
At the present moment, the Flying Island is basically an "updated" Temple of Relics which costs more than two times the original one with less rewards a week and of lesser quality.
I agree with the suggestions done by @MooingCat, and would add a potential increase of the chances to get shards in the settlement.
SAV is from what I've seen the most beautiful age so far. The design team did an awesome job, everything is beautiful in my opinion. This Great Building is SAV. The design is also great, I love it. So please, let's make at least its bonus decent.
Also @lordwasa, would it be possible to get information on what is the "Mysterious Shard" specified in the list of rewards and how to get them ? This would be interesting to know about it to give further feedback.
So as we can compare the 2 GBs, let's compare them.
Courtesy of @NinjAlin
Let's say we level them up at level 69, so :
- ToR bonus : 31.50%
- FI Bonus : 40.01%
- Nbr of rewards per week for ToR : 64
- Nbr of rewards per week for FI : 42 (1 every 4 hours, 6 per day, 42 a week)
- ToR average number of rewards per week : 20.16
- FI average number of rewards per week : 16.80
At the present moment, the Flying Island is basically an "updated" Temple of Relics which costs more than two times the original one with less rewards a week and of lesser quality.
I agree with the suggestions done by @MooingCat, and would add a potential increase of the chances to get shards in the settlement.
SAV is from what I've seen the most beautiful age so far. The design team did an awesome job, everything is beautiful in my opinion. This Great Building is SAV. The design is also great, I love it. So please, let's make at least its bonus decent.
Also @lordwasa, would it be possible to get information on what is the "Mysterious Shard" specified in the list of rewards and how to get them ? This would be interesting to know about it to give further feedback.
Quoras
Merchant
I really don't understand what people are whining about too. Yeah maybe its costly, but it will give you lots of stuff. You can either take this stuff yourself, or sell it to antiquous dealer for more suitable buildings. On top of that we don't know the chances yet. Maybe the Fp-Rewards are higher/lower. And last : It doesn't matter what its cost, but what you get per square out of it. Many people nowadays level der castle himeji or space carrier to lvl 91 to get more efficiency. So don't mind high cost on a good building that gives you lots of stuff.
Amaroke
Farmer
And one moment, you have to spend your fp somewhere, this GM is an option!