King Flush
Marquis
that is so true and such an easy way to address any issue with some guilds not being able to compete.
very well said
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Discussion Guild Battlegrounds Watchtower and Siege Camp Ability Re-balance
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CrashBoom
Legend
how would that work
a siege camp can be the 4th to a neighbor sector but the only one on a different neighbor sector
King Flush
Marquis
there's way too many Diamond league guilds so the disparity between the top guilds and the weaker ones can be great, if the intention is to allow for the weaker guilds to have a better shot in a campaign I'd suggest a new elite league where the top 8 guilds battle it out, Diamond league will be left for the less dominant guilds and all is good in the world, alternatively go with this cap but make attack boosts mean something so that those with the huge stats can fight at MUCH higher attrition levels to make it still worth striving to improve.
I think everyone in the 'for' camp are those that either don't wish or can't put the effort in and just want to be even to those that do, sorry but that's not how life works, like people on min wage begrudging those that have worked hard and got themselves good jobs, you get out of life what you put into it and until now this has been the case with FOE this proposal will change all that.
I think everyone in the 'for' camp are those that either don't wish or can't put the effort in and just want to be even to those that do, sorry but that's not how life works, like people on min wage begrudging those that have worked hard and got themselves good jobs, you get out of life what you put into it and until now this has been the case with FOE this proposal will change all that.
conqueror9
Regent
I have a suggestion
1, maximum building slot is 2 in a sector
2. central 2 building slot
3. 2nd ring. 1 to 2 (max) building slot, majority 1 building slot
4. 3rd to 4th to etc ... 0 to 1 building slot
5. Keep sc at 24%
test run
if not ok,
reduce sc to 20%
it will greatly increase the diffculties of GBG
1, maximum building slot is 2 in a sector
2. central 2 building slot
3. 2nd ring. 1 to 2 (max) building slot, majority 1 building slot
4. 3rd to 4th to etc ... 0 to 1 building slot
5. Keep sc at 24%
test run
if not ok,
reduce sc to 20%
it will greatly increase the diffculties of GBG
CrashBoom
Legend
more like 300-400 fights a day
if Inno would want 1000 fights a day they wouldn't cap at 4 camps but at 7 or 8
attrition 150 shouldn't be reached (because then it would be unlimited fights again)
66,6% reduction and less than reaching attrition of 150 would be less than 450 fights
PackCat
Squire
Unfortunately, I think you will be sadly mistaken.
It will be easier for the power Guilds to lock weaker Guilds in their base and give more time to manage the map.
My best guess is this will go the way of the Dodo bird and several other ideas INNO has come up with in the last 2 years.
I wish they would listen more to some of the creative ideas coming from its members instead.
Yekk
Regent
Inno is owned by a multinational corp... If FoE makes no profits new content will stop. Diamond spending matters. Inno seems to believe this change will bring war back into GBG. The players will make that determination. My guess is that considering how distasteful war was in the first months of GBG most will not participate. It was not fun to be trapped. Guilds just quit fighting
PMM63
Farmer
You are levelling the game by the lowest common denominator, i.e. the players that don't spend much time here and need to gain some fights when they came. I spend in average, 18 hours a day here. As a consequence, I have lots of fights and a very high score. I also spend lots of diamonds. From now on, if you implement this new rules, what's the point of being here?
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Having worked all my life in Marketing, I never saw a Customer Loyalty Action so bad: the players that spend more time here, those who buy more diamonds, and more dedicated to the game, should be penalized, for the interest of the less dedicated. 1 century ago, a guy called Marx tried to implement that, but I think, that in the end, it was proved that the theory was wrong. But we need to consider the positive side of this: killing the only interesting thing of this game, will force me to find another way of spending my time, after 2 years here. My family will be thrilled.
Please spend your time improving GvG interface - it's lousy.
That you are protesting for a better strategy, I can understand that and invite you to continue.
That you protest for your comfort of play (personal gains), I can also understand it but I remind you that FOE is a collective game not individual.
That you are protesting for the benefits of Innogames, I don't understand your attitude. If they find in 2 or 3 months that they are losing money, they will change on their own. But I doubt the loss is as great as you think. Just look at the aberration of the FOE PLUS offer, which did not suffer the flop everyone expected.
That you protest for your comfort of play (personal gains), I can also understand it but I remind you that FOE is a collective game not individual.
That you are protesting for the benefits of Innogames, I don't understand your attitude. If they find in 2 or 3 months that they are losing money, they will change on their own. But I doubt the loss is as great as you think. Just look at the aberration of the FOE PLUS offer, which did not suffer the flop everyone expected.
PackCat
Squire
I think the diamond league should be more restrictive and mean something. Maybe only the top 10 Guilds or top 1% of "active" Guilds. Meaning scoring more than 200K+ VP each season. Currently, you always have 1 or 2 good Guilds, and the rest just sit on the sidelines.
The placement system should be season to season, not just score 1st place one season and ride for free the next 3 seasons (6 weeks)
The bottom Guild should drop down to the next league, and the top of the next league can move up.
Example of 10 Guilds in Diamond, could be (2) five Guild competition in a season.
It would guarantee good competition in the Diamond league contests.
The lazy Guilds could just flounder with themselves in lower leagues.
And yes, the poor Guilds piggyback on the good Guilds by hoping & poaching to retain camps if they capture a sector.
Rarely do I see those Guilds spending any of their own resources to make the map better for everyone.
-Alin-
Emperor
The thing that intrigues me the most is this, the biggest guild with the best activity will win the round, they go for middle sectors in front of all guilds, fill the outer sectors with traps, decoys, whatever, fill the other sectors with palaces and voila, they need less than 24 hours out of 11 days to secure the 1st place, no struggle, nothing, just few activity and goods at the beggining then nothing, "winner winner chicken dinner".
Herr Voxner
Merchant
It would be helpful if Inno was completely transparent on what "problem" they are trying to solve or rebalance for. If I understand the problem, I can present better solutions. What idea is driving this need for a rebalance?
- Is it purely rewards problem? (fairness thing)
- Is it a player health issue? (expectation of time/effort involved is hurting players)
- Some other issue?
PackCat
Squire
It only took CNN+ 15 days to figure out it made a big mistake.
Statue of NinjAlin
Farmer
We had a discussion in our guild and if this comes to live servers, the only way to secure #1 is to have as many people as possible when the map begins and rush for the center.
HunZ95
Squire
With this change, they will only mean that active players will spend less time playing the game because there will be no point in logging in. Collection, GVG, GBG, all of this can be done in a few minutes in the evening, and nothing else can be done.
The small / medium guilds can't even fight as much as they do now because they get some traps for the neighboring sectors, and then the current system can be cried back.
It would make more sense to change the league rankings. For example, giving guilds a choice of whether they want to enter the diamond league or stay in the smaller league will fight more but give up the diamond league reward.
The solution is not to penalize active players because they sacrifice more time to play, which only means that the game is extinct and only 5-minute players remain on the servers.
The small / medium guilds can't even fight as much as they do now because they get some traps for the neighboring sectors, and then the current system can be cried back.
It would make more sense to change the league rankings. For example, giving guilds a choice of whether they want to enter the diamond league or stay in the smaller league will fight more but give up the diamond league reward.
The solution is not to penalize active players because they sacrifice more time to play, which only means that the game is extinct and only 5-minute players remain on the servers.