lacsapgaah
Farmer
We want to test on live servers. When will this be done?
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Discussion Guild Battlegrounds Watchtower and Siege Camp Ability Re-balance
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We want to test on live servers. When will this be done?
Pericles the Lion
Emperor
Why does this questionI can only guarantee you'll see my fight numbers go down to zero and then I'll have had my 'comeuppance' won't Iliterally I can't wait!!
I also said for the log in once a day players they may find fights available to them that they may not have always had before, so some in the lower echelon may get some more fights, of course the distribution will be more even, the question remains should the active players not get more than those that choose to participate less and I see no argument that justifies why this should not be so.
King Flush
Marquis
okay seriously you really need to be pedantic about things? but if you really need to rephrase it then I shall - the question remains, should the active players not get a whole lot more than those that choose to participate much less? and I see no argument that justifies why this should not be so. why should a player with 2000 attack only get a handful more fights than someone with less than 1000 ? or someone who plays for hours to be restricted back towards those that hardly play?
jovada
Regent
The answer to your question is really simple, if you the active player does more fights then the player who participate less you automatically have more rewards, the only thing you loose is your free candie.
blueskydwg
Steward
OK, now that's actually a great question. Let me rephrase just a bit - Why is Inno making this change?
And I don't think they have ever said other than vague references to balancing.
Is it to address the possibility of players using scripts to speed up their fights? Maybe - I haven't seen that in any of the cities I play, but I guess it's a possibility.
Is it somehow thought that this will help balance the competition among the 7 to 8 guilds in each battlegrounds? If that's the case, I'd say Inno is indulging in wishful thinking. Unless it's always the top 7 or 8 guilds always included (and I think they did this for awhile - I seem to remember in my live city having to compete against the same 4 or 5 guilds each season - then they adjusted it and I usually don't see a repeat for 4 or 5 seasons) then there is always going to be larger, more active guilds (and the more active is the key - 40 really active players can dominate 80 so-so) running the show and the less active guilds just picking up the scraps (if they even want them - but how did they get in diamond anyway? That really amazes me).
So, bottom line, we don't know why.
But we can mostly determine the impact.
More active players will get a reduction in their fights. The reduction will be proportionate - everyone getting 1000 per day now will likely stay in synch with each other - either at 500 or 600 or whatever.
That will happen. No ifs, ands, or buts.
What we don't know, and what most of the comments here are really going in giant circles about, is what will be the impact on everyone else.
My guess is "Not much". Less active players will still be less active players. And let's face it - probably 95% (and I'm picking a number out of thin air here) would fit in that category.
Less active guilds may be able to get in more fights and capture more tiles, but most probably won't.
Pericles the Lion
Emperor
Just more insults.
Make up your mind what the question is. At first it was "should active players not get more than those that choose to participate less". Now it's "should the active players not get a whole lot more than those that choose to participate much less". I will give you my answer for "why should a player with 2000 attack only get a handful more fights than someone with less than 1000". It's called the law of diminishing returns.
King Flush
Marquis
well Einstein thanks for pointing that out to me, however there's actually a whole lot more I'd lose like the whole game, as without the tactics etc the game is meaningless to me, the rewards I receive from GBG sucks for the time I have put into it in the past to facilitate my guild mates to play as a team is more important, I for sure deserve a whole lot more than I get, as I've said before I don't try for excessive fight numbers and could get many more rewards if I was to choose to play more selflessly or concentrate on the mundane such as sniping etc. I don't as I'm one of the few (in this forum at least) who actually appreciates game play!
King Flush
Marquis
what the hell are you guys reading? point me to the insult? I rephrased the question as you were being funny but they both mean pretty much the same? diminishing returns indeed we already have diminishing returns for increasing attack stats, already I suggest there is not a big enough advantage to pushing your stats really high but we accept that's how it is. This is more than just diminishing returns in post nerf settings it makes it absolutely pointless to increase your stats over a much much lower threshold than it is currently members of the forum have already demonstrated this but the nerf puts everything so far out of balance it's crazy, can you imagine how many hours would have been wasted by players who have spent the last number of years painstakingly building their cities for current game environment for it to be in essence removed or at least so severely nullified. The sad thing is I doubt most players will even realise this until/if it comes in.
Pericles the Lion
Emperor
I have my fingers crossed hoping that the Devs do their very best to see that you get everything you deserve.
King Flush
Marquis
bring it on!! my life will be far better for it
King Flush
Marquis
who is 'we'? I sure as hell aren't part of the 'we' you mention.
Yekk
Regent
Your guild is in D-lite...You make my point for me. 1K is higher than D-lite which is higher than Platinum. Each has its own speed of play.
jovada
Regent
Did i speak of my guild ????? I only pointed out the activity (or not) in the group
Yekk
Regent
Your attachment does that for you. Yours is the guild in white... You will see more fights for your players this league (D-lite) than in the last (1K) where you could not make let alone hold the middle. Thanks for playing...
MJ Artisan of War
Baronet
Another day... Another ten minutes of GBG to hit full attrition.... This game is becoming a real timesaver....
jovada
Regent
We ended 5th but did more fights then the nr4 maybe even more then the nr3 in your 1k
Yekk
Regent
You did more fights than the 3 man guild that took 4th. Not than the 3rd place guild did though. My point is you do more for your guild in a D-lite league. I am a very good chess player but I would not make the candidates tournament. It would be wrong for me to say I deserved to be in it. It would be wrong to have a system which allowed me in unless I was actually that good. I might get a few draws in 100 games from Magnus Carlsen but he would consider me a fish (chess term for a lesser player).
King Flush
Marquis
chess is a great game
Thunderdome
Emperor
So basically, we are not going to see anything because this change is going to go to live as it is. Gotcha on that.
Next round, folks? Heh heh.