Great Building Alcatraz

[DeletedUser3678]

Which update comes Alcatraz, and what can it do???

 

[DeletedUser]

So are the rogue hideouts considered by this GB or not?

 

[DeletedUser]

The future will bring it on. But its correct that after a while you stack up units and what to do with them...

Anyways its something different and thats just good. We will see how it works.

 

[DeletedUser]

So are the rogue hideouts considered by this GB or not?

Yes they are.

 

[DeletedUser]

Yes they are.

Great. Thx.

 

[BestWarrior]

The Portuguese COMA has publishied today different values of hapiness and bonus units as it will be the final version of Alcatraz.
This are the new values:

Stats

LvL Hapiness Military Units
1 2700 4
2 3100 4
3 3800 5
4 4300 5
5 4800 5
6 5500 6
7 6000 6
8 6600 6
9 7100 7
10 8600 8

Please, can someone confirm this changes?

Thank's

P.S. The building is 10x7 or 7x10?

 

[DeletedUser2752]

10x7
Those numbers look a bit weird. The happiness values rate of change doesn't look like it should decrease at a given value (compared level 2 to 3 and 3 to 4), and why is there 3 levels that produce 5 and 6 units? It would look better if it was 3 4's then 3 5's

 

[BestWarrior]

10x7
Those numbers look a bit weird. The happiness values rate of change doesn't look like it should decrease at a given value (compared level 2 to 3 and 3 to 4), and why is there 3 levels that produce 5 and 6 units? It would look better if it was 3 4's then 3 5's

As far as i've seen, the GB is indeed 10x7, but the PT COMA says the oposite...(7x10)

 

[piohh]

the bonus of Alcatraz is ok. and not so strong as people think. With Level 5 you get 10 Units and u need for the random units 1 barracks for ech units u use or you can't get unattached units. I attack all player if I like each day without this GB and I can attack all player if I like with this GB... so what...

 

[BestWarrior]

the bonus of Alcatraz is ok. and not so strong as people think. With Level 5 you get 10 Units and u need for the random units 1 barracks for ech units u use or you can't get unattached units. I attack all player if I like each day without this GB and I can attack all player if I like with this GB... so what...

The same here...

 

[piohh]

too... late... the amount of random units decrease today from 9 Units with Level 4 to 5 Units with Level 4.

 

[DeletedUser]

Whereas occupies a 10x7 alcatraz has a ratio happiness / box equal to 122.8, very low, whereas a Hagia Sophia has a ratio of 152.4. A happiness we did not own with this Great Building. As for the units, 8 that are not regenerated during the day (a military building give me 4 units + regeneration units one every 4 hours), I could replace a maximum of two military building, not more. They made ​​irrelevant as Great Building .

 

[BestWarrior]

too... late... the amount of random units decrease today from 9 Units with Level 4 to 5 Units with Level 4.

so those values are the final ones. A giant GB for a few units...hummmm, must think well...

 

[DeletedUser1418]

Its been halved (woithout prior notification)

I still believe this is bogus, first give units (what about the population). There we better options to give as bonus.

 

[DeletedUser4106]

but I did not understand a thing .... these detached units that give, be combined? if I put them aside I can get to having a few hundred aside?

 

[DeletedUser1418]

They are added to your army (mouse over units in your units inventory to find out which ones are unattached)

 

[DeletedUser1526]

Whereas occupies a 10x7 alcatraz has a ratio happiness / box equal to 122.8, very low, whereas a Hagia Sophia has a ratio of 152.4. A happiness we did not own with this Great Building. As for the units, 8 that are not regenerated during the day (a military building give me 4 units + regeneration units one every 4 hours), I could replace a maximum of two military building, not more. They made ​​irrelevant as Great Building .

The units will not regenerate, but their health will. So if you use the units smart. The GB is more powerful than a singel militarybuilding(or 3 military building for that sake).

I think the new adjustments are good.

 

[DeletedUser2752]

8 is too low compared to the happiness it gives IMO...

 

[DeletedUser]

but I did not understand a thing .... these detached units that give, be combined? if I put them aside I can get to having a few hundred aside?

yes you can have hundreds of units

... As for the units, 8 that are not regenerated during the day (a military building give me 4 units + regeneration units one every 4 hours), I could replace a maximum of two military building, not more. They made ​​irrelevant as Great Building .

wait a few days and then you never lose a unit in the fight because you can attack every neighbor with healthy units

with your two military buildings you always have 8 troops and you sure lose some in fights if you attack all neighboors
with alcatraz you can have a few hundred units and wont lose one in the future

8 is too low compared to the happiness it gives IMO...

how many do you want ?
100 per week ?
or 200 per week ?

 

[piohh]

I can attack each neighbor with 10 Barracks
(3 Sniper, 2 Tanks, 1 Amored Car, 2 Rapid Fire Canon, 1 Conscript, 1 Rogue)
(losing max. 2 Units each day with more than 500.000 Fightpoints 24h)

and now I need 6 Barracks
(1 Sniper, 1 Tank, 1 Amored Car, 1 Rapid Fire Canon, 1 Consrcript, 1 Rogue)

and a place with 10x7 and some goods to build the Acatraz. This Building is called GREAT Building and not only Building. Great Buildings are a special... and are for specials...

 

[DeletedUser2752]

how many do you want ?
100 per week ?
or 200 per week ?

At least 70 (a week) at level 10. You can't "gain" any unattached units unless you expect us not to lose more than around 4 units a day/hood run (or 4 x the number of barracks you aim to build...)
btw, that gives me another question: If you have 2 of the same barracks, do you get double the chances for that unit?