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Feedback Archaeology 2021

Owl II

Emperor
Сalendar is not a bad idea. But this event is already overladen a lot : excavations, tablets. Now this. I don't understand what the target of this event is anymore:)
 
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Rusje

Steward
I do have the switch option for daily prizes. It looks like who has it is random. I don't have FOE-plus, I had no offer to go to SAV immediately, and I didn't have the automatic switch of production buildings. I think they are testing some new things based on two groups of players and they want to know which group likes it the most. If I assume this, I think I understand why they give some less information: they don't want to influence the research they're doing.
Actually the switch option is something like a daily prize every 12 hours, you just get 2 daily prizes a day instead of one. The handy thing is that you can choose if you want the first or you want to guess if the other one is better. Till now the first one was always the best for me ;-) I don't know if everyone who switches gets the same second daily prize.
 
Just read through some of the comments and saw many complaining about the calender.

Must say I hated the Christmas one and feel like the event already has quite a lot on the menu, however, I love how they reworked the calender and actually made it more manageable, like first of all you only need 5 gems not 10 to get an additional one, also you are able to find them yourself and wait until the next day (if you already found one that day) and they count as a new one. ..

So while I feel it's a bit much I still, so far, feel it's nice that with this calender it seems like inno has listened to some of the critic about the Christmas one and made this one make able...
 

Jules

Squire
Finding the shards for the calendar seems to be relatively easy - much better than the winter calendar. So I like this very much.

On the other hand, the probabilities for daily specials seems super low. I found one on day 1 and none since. Today I wanted to go all in on the daily and use all scrolls (used at least 800 scrolls) but found no special. Don't think it will be worth it to use diamonds if 1 large diamond pack (500 scrolls) does not even yield 1 daily special.
 

estrid

Baronet
I have now done two clay tablets. The last prize does not give a dialog window leaving me wondering did I get something or not.
 

MooingCat

Viceroy
Spoiler Poster
Around 40k diamonds for the 2nd wheel
How did you get to that number?

During the Halloween event I got roughly 1 grand prize per 380 event currency. If that's accurate, you should be able to complete 11 grand prizes for free without including tablets or incidents. If you include those you should probably be able to get another 2 - 3 grand prizes for let's say 14 total. If you include event surprise box and calendar you need a total of 23 grand prizes for a second wheel, 27 if you exclude calendar.

So 9*380 = 3420 scrolls, or roughly 14k diamonds if you exclude calendar,
or 13*380 = 4940 scrolls, or roughly 20k diamonds.

Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if those are conservative estimates, once you start spending you'll end up getting a lot of tablets, and for each set you complete you get 30 brushes, 10 shovels and 10 dynamites (around 2k worth of diamonds I'd say).
 

Sinitar

Regent
How did you work out that number?
Behind that number, there is a complex of antecedent calculations to get an idea ..
I first calculated how to make the first wheel without diamonds and from the availability of scrolls which, alas, are few ..
At that point, the calculation to be clear since 20 gran prizes and 400 golden idols are needed;
I've put in an estimate of how many golden idols you can get from a tool set 395's price(15)and from there, there's another set of calculations to be done.
It must be taken into account that I have NOT counted any scrolls that are subsequently taken from the clay tablets after finishing the first wheel and the tools taken from the sand and the collector's rewards
So is an approximation that can be lowered by 10/20% than the start price on diamonds
 
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Sinitar

Regent
How did you get to that number?

During the Halloween event I got roughly 1 grand prize per 380 event currency. If that's accurate, you should be able to complete 11 grand prizes for free without including tablets or incidents.
Alas, this time we will take only 7 gran prize not 11
First 39 quests give 40 scrolls and after the daily quests 50
The wheel have 10 levels not 7 as the House of the wolf :rolleyes:
 
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MooingCat

Viceroy
Spoiler Poster
Alas, this time we will take only 7 gran prize not 11
First 39 quests give 40 scrolls and after the daily quests 50
The wheel have 10 levels not 7 as the House of the wolf :rolleyes:
22*40 + 39*40 + 21*50 + 120 + 600 = 4210 scrolls for free

4210/380 = 11.08 grand prizes. So if the idol drop rate is the same as light bulb drop rate for halloween, you should be able to get 11 grand prizes.

11 grand prizes gives 6 upgrade kits. You get 3 from quest milestones, and the 10th from event surprise box if you have that, or incidents + tablets if you don't.
 

Sinitar

Regent
22*40 + 39*40 + 21*50 + 120 + 600 = 4210 scrolls for free
4210/380 = 11.08 grand prizes. So if the idol drop rate is the same as light bulb drop rate for halloween, you should be able to get 11 grand prizes.
11 grand prizes gives 6 upgrade kits. You get 3 from quest milestones, and the 10th from event surprise box if you have that, or incidents + tablets if you don't.
We have all the datas necessary
Let's start with the calculations:
120 start event​
200+400 = 600 milestones​
40x22 = 880 daily bonus​
40x39 = 1560 main quests​
50x21 = 1050 daily quests​
Total scrolls = 4210​
The price of a tool set is 395 not 380
Divide the total scrolls to se how many tool set can we get:
4210 : 395 = 10,66 tools set
Remember: it's tools set, NOT gran prize

Adding 40 scrolls every 3 days from incidents (it's happening from me)so: 40 x 7 = 280
4210+280 = 4490 scrools ---> 4490 : 395 = 11,36 tools set

Adding 2,5 clay tablets per tool set(=50 scrolls): 11 x 2,5 = 27,5 I prefer to calculate by default; 27 clay tablets
27 x 20 =540
4490+540 = 5030 scrolls --->5030 : 395 = 12,73 tools set

Returning with my approximation about golden idols : 12(tools set) x 15(golden idols) = 180 : 20 = 9 gran prize obtainable

Now the sourge of the upgrades:
+5 from gran prize (1,3,5,7,9)
+3 from quest
+1 from box
= 9 upgrades
+ 2 from calendar
= 11 upgrades

Let's start now how much it takes the 2nd wheel:
9 upgrades required if you complete also the calendar ---> gran prize at 11,13,15,17,19,21,23,25,27

Warning: this time I will NOT counted any scrolls that are subsequently taken from the clay tablets after finishing the first wheel and the tools taken from the sand and the 2nd/3rd collector's rewards

I suppose that you have gained the first collectionist's reward and the tools set are now 14 (14x15 = 210 golden idols = 10,5 gran prize)
it remaining 16,5 gran prize for the 2nd wheel
16,5 x 20 = 330 golden idols required
330 : 15 = 22 tools set required

22 tools set x 395 scrools = 8690 scrolls required
1 small pack of scrolls(40) it cost 200 diamonds
1 medium pack of scrolls(150) it cost 700 diamonds
1 large pack of scrolls(500) it cost 1995 diamonds
1.995 x 17 + 700 x 1 + 200 x 1 = 33.915 + 700 + 200 = 34815 total diamonds required

From this number can be lowered by 10/20% due to scrolls,tools founded from the sand and collectionist's rewards,and the final cost is between 31.300 and 27.850

edit: adjusted wrong calculations at 2nd wheel
 
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MooingCat

Viceroy
Spoiler Poster
We have all the datas necessary
Let's start with the calculations:
120 start event​
200+400 = 600 milestones​
40x22 = 880 daily bonus​
40x39 = 1560 main quests​
50x21 = 1050 daily quests​
Total scrolls = 4210​
The price of a tool set is 395 not 380
Divide the total scrolls to se how many tool set can we get:
4210 : 395 = 10,66 tools set
Remember: it's tools set, NOT gran prize

Adding 40 scrolls every 3 days from incidents (it's happening from me)so: 40 x 7 = 280
4210+280 = 4490 scrools ---> 4490 : 395 = 11,36 tools set

Adding 2,5 clay tablets per tool set(=50 scrolls): 11 x 2,5 = 27,5 I prefer to calculate by default; 27 clay tablets
27 x 20 =540
4490+540 = 5030 scrolls --->5030 : 395 = 12,73 tools set

Returning with my approximation about golden idols : 12(tools set) x 15(golden idols) = 180 : 20 = 9 gran prize obtainable

Now the sourge of the upgrades:
+5 from gran prize (1,3,5,7,9)
+3 from quest
+1 from box
= 9 upgrades
+ 2 from calendar
= 11 upgrades

Let's start now how much it takes the 2nd wheel:
9 upgrades required if you complete also the calendar ---> gran prize at 11,13,15,17,19,21,23,25,27

Warning: this time I will NOT counted any scrolls that are subsequently taken from the clay tablets after finishing the first wheel and the tools taken from the sand and the 2nd/3rd collector's rewards

I suppose that you have gained the first collectionist's reward and the tools set are now 14 (14x15 = 210 golden idols = 10,5 gran prize)
it remaining 16,5 gran prize for the 2nd wheel
16,5 x 20 = 330 golden idols required
330 : 15 = 22 tools set required

22 tools set x 395 scrools = 8690 scrolls required
1 small pack of scrolls(40) it cost 200 diamonds
1 medium pack of scrolls(150) it cost 700 diamonds
1 large pack of scrolls(500) it cost 1995 diamonds
1.995 x 17 + 700 x 1 + 200 x 1 = 33.915 + 700 + 200 = 34815 total diamonds required

From this number can be lowered by 10/20% due to scrolls,tools founded from the sand and collectionist's rewards,and the final cost is between 31.300 and 27.850

edit: adjusted wrong calculations at 2nd wheel
As I mentioned my calculations were based off of my experience from the Halloween event, where I managed to pick up 145 idols with 7 tool sets, or 20.7 idols per tool set. I imagine the drop rates are similar if not the same, so that's where I got my 380 number from. That's excluding scrolls picked up from the dolls / tablets. From those same 7 tool sets I managed to pick up 19 dolls, so 19*20=380 event currency, for roughly one additional grand prize.

Edit: Looked through a recording I did on this event, managed to pick up 20 idols for 21 brushes, 7 shovels and 8 dynamite, or roughly 1 tool kit.
 
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