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The era of the defense sadly only updates when the season restarts
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Feedback PvP Arena (reworked)
- Thread starter lordwasa
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The era of the defense sadly only updates when the season restarts
I do not see how this feature would need you to spend diamonds.
Forge of Empires is a free to play game with plenty of opportunities to gain diamonds through quests, battlegrounds and the expedition for example. Maybe the Innogames game with the easiest way to 'gather' diamonds for free. Most grand prizes can be gained at their max lvl without spending a single diamond. If you choose to expedite your game by spending diamonds, or want to spend diamonds to try to get a change at a daily prize or revive/heal lost units, that's up to you but you do not need to spend diamonds if you don't want too.
Back to the Arena, you get a certain amount of daily attempts and you can buy more with medals or diamonds. You get 12 attempts for free every day given the fact that you need to spend attempts every 9:59 hours, and if you theoretically 10 out of 12 own age fights, it would net you every season about 85.000 points bringing you at least in the crystal league. With the extra attempts from the leagues it would maybe even get you to 90.000 points of the 100.000 points.
Without spending medals and diamonds, you can almost complete all personal rankings and you can compete with other players directly 1v1.
Sure, you might not be the best player on your world or age in the ranking because there are players that like this feature, have fun with it and are willing to spend medals or diamonds on it, just like other players do on guild versus guild or battlegrounds.
You do not have to spend diamonds on this feature to almost complete your personal rankings, the only thing you would sacrifice are units with a chance to receive a random reward after every battle.
Praeceptor
Marquis
That's my point.
You can buy extra attempts with diamonds or medals - guess which one I would go for if I were interested in playing this! So if Inno aren't making any profit, why change the old PvP? Why change something that nobody ever complained about? Why upset some of your players without any discernible benefit to the company?
Given the response to this "feature" I would just call it bad PR.
Owl II
Emperor
That's the problem. We can only compete to see who buys the most attempts. Because an attack is always a victory. Protection is always a defeat. Add bots here. And everything gets more boring than the old PVP towers
Thunderdome
Emperor
It'll be a game of Rock, Paper, Scissors, Grenade Launcher.
I've pulled back from this feature. It seems to be more like GE without the negotiation, relic, or time limit bits. If that didn't get anyone bored much quicker, it would be the plethora of bots and/or the ridiculously low rewards for the effort. This feature serves more as event/daily quest fodder when such asks for defeating a certain number of units or winning a certain number of battles. There is really no PVP (more like PVE) in any of this.
I really don't see how when most of the entities I battled were of bots and not a real recognizable player. "Directly" would have both "real" players at their devices contemplating their moves and strategy in being the last one standing and winning the fight in real time, not some "you were attacked by so-so x hours ago". We don't even have a replay on this feature to see what was used against us so we can re-allocate/assign units for a better defense.
I very strongly agreed. Personally I think this feature could bring an more meaningful PvP to the table by not allowing any GB bonus in those battles. Although it's still kinda PvE it's more real Player vs Player performance.
I'm not exactly sure if defeated defences and victorious defences should be counted in your PvP performance. I would rather like something like attacking only as this represents more the players' performance as the defensive AI performance is influencing the ranking now and the various bonuses
LastWarrior
Regent
When it goes live bots will not be to the forefront we hope.
Balinor
Steward
erased is probably the word their translator picked
You should cut them some slack
jovada
Regent
No mather what the mods trying to tell us (yes a few players like the pvp, but a lot don't) it is still boring, boring , boring.
With the old pvp towers you had a target before you and you know the points of the player behind you. (of course only for the neighbourhood) now you only see the points you receive and have no target to motivate you.
You may say you have a target now in the pvp , but i don't want to play it because boring , boring, boring.
The old pvp tower showed you the targets when you fight everywhere ( except expedition)
So i have a suggestion , why not show us the two players before us and the two players behind us in the global ranking with each fight you do, that gives us back a target and motivation.
With the old pvp towers you had a target before you and you know the points of the player behind you. (of course only for the neighbourhood) now you only see the points you receive and have no target to motivate you.
You may say you have a target now in the pvp , but i don't want to play it because boring , boring, boring.
The old pvp tower showed you the targets when you fight everywhere ( except expedition)
So i have a suggestion , why not show us the two players before us and the two players behind us in the global ranking with each fight you do, that gives us back a target and motivation.
I start to understand why they removed the old towers. It was very vulnerable for abuse and lots of times battle points exploits were used in order to gain an advantage over opponents or just competing those calculations who using them. Examples are with PME double fights where introduced. Winning the first fight and giving up before the second started enabled endless points. This was later resolved by not granting points before winning both waves. Later GvG was exploited numerous times, resulting in the restrictions on GvG to limit points ping pong. Still GvG got abused for those points. As if stands it seems to Inno is done and over with this and thus created the PvP arena.
As for points of improvements for the PvP arena. I would prefer as suggested before that GB bonuses are not influencing the battles. I would like to see for the defensive armies a separated ranking for defending and no penalties for defence breaches or better yet not any player defending army. As in the old towers this didn't effect the ranking anyways and it only motivates to exploit the missions to obtain units from later ages then the player is in. As this strongly reduces the risk of defence breaches in the arena and thus negative influence on the results.
This would make more a ranking based off skills in battle rather then who has the biggest GB bonuses and biggest money or exploited the missions the best.
As a feature itself it feels empty. Just a bunch of extra fights for points to obtain some rewards. Don't get me wrong I love battles but this feels empty and meaningless. I would like to see also a weekly nb ranking based off battle points from battles of the Cmap, raiding the hood, GE and perhaps GbG. This would be a true replacement of the old towers. Rather then being something completely new.
As for points of improvements for the PvP arena. I would prefer as suggested before that GB bonuses are not influencing the battles. I would like to see for the defensive armies a separated ranking for defending and no penalties for defence breaches or better yet not any player defending army. As in the old towers this didn't effect the ranking anyways and it only motivates to exploit the missions to obtain units from later ages then the player is in. As this strongly reduces the risk of defence breaches in the arena and thus negative influence on the results.
This would make more a ranking based off skills in battle rather then who has the biggest GB bonuses and biggest money or exploited the missions the best.
As a feature itself it feels empty. Just a bunch of extra fights for points to obtain some rewards. Don't get me wrong I love battles but this feels empty and meaningless. I would like to see also a weekly nb ranking based off battle points from battles of the Cmap, raiding the hood, GE and perhaps GbG. This would be a true replacement of the old towers. Rather then being something completely new.
We are currently looking into this.
As a favorite company that we are all
let's talk based on numbers
before embedding it in the live servers
you saw the statistics ?
ie how much the players participate in it
and the amount they fell statistics of the total time
that the players were dealing with the FOE?
Sorry for the English
is by automatic translation
the text in Greek
Σαν μια αγαπημενη παρεα που ειμαστε ολοι
ας μιλησουμε βαση των αριθμων
πριν το ενταξετε στους ζωντανους σερβερς
ειδατε τα στατιστικα ?
δηλ ποσο συμμετεχουν οι παιχτες σε αυτο
και ποσο επεσαν τα στατιστικα του συνολικου χρονου
που ασχολιοντουσαν οι παιχτες με το φοε ?
let's talk based on numbers
before embedding it in the live servers
you saw the statistics ?
ie how much the players participate in it
and the amount they fell statistics of the total time
that the players were dealing with the FOE?
Sorry for the English
is by automatic translation
the text in Greek
Σαν μια αγαπημενη παρεα που ειμαστε ολοι
ας μιλησουμε βαση των αριθμων
πριν το ενταξετε στους ζωντανους σερβερς
ειδατε τα στατιστικα ?
δηλ ποσο συμμετεχουν οι παιχτες σε αυτο
και ποσο επεσαν τα στατιστικα του συνολικου χρονου
που ασχολιοντουσαν οι παιχτες με το φοε ?
bromtor
Squire
LOL what a good joke this is. 90 % think its garbage.
I spend all my old units on naughbors to be shore i loos them whats the point keeping them without the PVP theres no fun fighting on multple era.
Only thing left is a very boring game i think spend about 90 % lesser time on beta then i used to do harvest , put fp at the trains play some GE thats its the fun is gone.
Outlaw Dread
Baronet
Tried it several times; just does not interest me.
Too much effort, too boring, too little gain. GbG is just more fun for me, though YMMV.
Too much effort, too boring, too little gain. GbG is just more fun for me, though YMMV.
qaccy
Emperor
Sheesh, even after all this time people are still carrying on like something was lost with the removal of the neighborhood towers. Do they understand that they can still get points from battles and can still attack and plunder their neighbors? The towers' removal has no impact on either of those things.
vidicecilia
Baronet
It´s true, but now it's an individual activity. You cannot compete with your neighbors for the first place, which gives all the fun to the game.
I´m playing for more than 8 years and almost all those years I have played PvP.
PvP did not give interesting prizes that would arouse our greed, as any special building gives you more medals than it did, but its real prize was fun..
I´ve made several good friends competing PvP. We died with laughing at the end of Sundays trying to enter the last battle that gave us the victory. It was not a malicious competition (except for some sick situations), it was competition for fun.
Unfortunately, it has died and with it the joy and laughter. I will miss it so much.
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