Beta567
Baronet
I was trying to say that it doesn't matter either you chase calendar or daily you won't get what you want.
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Feedback Summer Event 2023
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crabbyoldman
Squire
Why would anyone limit themselves to 4 attempts a day by choice? That would be horrible strategy and would accomplish little toward any goal you might have for the event, whether it is getting the event building or filling all spots on the calendar. You aren't even making any sense, sorry.
MonkeyDMonkey
Baronet
I disagree, with the calendar it’s unlikely yes, unless an overwhelming streak of good luck is on your side. While it’s not really visible to get tons of dailies it’s possible to get some amount. At least I’ve never been so unlucky that I ended any winter event with 0 daily specials.
einzauberengel
Squire
INNO I am giving up. Will skip this and most probably the next 2 events plus any other new stuff!!! I am so tired. Next event which seems not to work again to many new fragments I dont wanna have. I lost overview over possible upgrades and new features... I am tired. To many new features without any sence and no time left to even understand or evaluate against my own gaming strategy. Maybe somewhere in September I will try to rejoin testing and evaluating stuff against fun.
Money I dont have is requested and quality issues are in a row of new features I am not able to invest any more brains in. Tired. ... exhausted and fun went ... what a bad result for a game... game should at least be fun... thats why we are playing. Tried to give that feedback now since somewhen in November last year. You dont want to listen... Now I am giving up... From a natural born Hamburg citizen... a lot of loyality was swinging in this giving up post
Money I dont have is requested and quality issues are in a row of new features I am not able to invest any more brains in. Tired. ... exhausted and fun went ... what a bad result for a game... game should at least be fun... thats why we are playing. Tried to give that feedback now since somewhen in November last year. You dont want to listen... Now I am giving up... From a natural born Hamburg citizen... a lot of loyality was swinging in this giving up post
planetofthehumans2
Emperor
Makes sense since inno was bought by cellphone game company in 2020.
Its becoming pay to get the golden upgrade for the event price, even if it's pretty nice it still sucks that the final level before golden is half or less as good.I guess they just recently let go hundreds of staff members too.
Some things I hope they can correct during this event: Skip the coin throwing animation, takes up too much time and I don't care how much I win. Buff up the amount of dablooms won by incidents/daily OR reduce the cost per guess on the board. Its complete nonsense to only be able to make 2 moves per day - boring!
Some things I hope they revamp for summer/winter event: take out shuffle stone and add shuffle button.
Just a side note, I have no idea what the words on the board mean since I don't speak spanish and there is a treasure button. This layout isn't very intuitive to tell the user what the going on in this game. AND B) the board doesn't tell you how much each selection costs, it should say in the box that appears when you hover over a piece of stone.
David the sagacious
Steward
Makes sense since inno was bought by cellphone game company in 2020.
I guess they just recently let go hundreds of staff members too.
The article I read said 75 which is still close to 20% of their workforce.
With 20% fewer people, no one should be expecting new and innovative (It's ironic that the first 4 letters of innovative are Inno) because it seems extremely likely that cut & paste features will be the order of the day.
CrashBoom
Legend
you limited yourself to 2 attempts
by choice when spending all doubloons already. that was your choice
but strategic players would limit themselves to play the game only on one day
jtrucker
Baronet
Oh,. Haven't read the news about Inno being acquired by another company. Now it all make sense:
Many prices for real $$ (not even for diamonds) + firing 20% of the employees = corporate greed in its pure form. Great example of how the corporations work. Good to know the reasons behind the game going step by step to the sewer.
Many prices for real $$ (not even for diamonds) + firing 20% of the employees = corporate greed in its pure form. Great example of how the corporations work. Good to know the reasons behind the game going step by step to the sewer.
jtrucker
Baronet
It keeps popping up even if the map is full and you didn't buy it
Yeah, I've mentioned exactly this a few pages ago. Not that Inno cares. The lowest amount in the anniversary event I found was 20 energy = two steps in the game. Here is is 0.1 step in the game. What a joke.
crabbyoldman
Squire
I have yet to get a single doubloon from incidents. This event is a total waste
The event is currently not balanced well enough, only a small percentage of players will be able to get the 280 progress required during the event.
Currently, you can get:
* Starting: 20
* Quests: 67*10 = 670
* Logins: 32*10 = 320
* Milestones: 50+50 = 100
* Total: 1110 Doubloons
The "14 Stars" option has been removed, and picking up key fragments doesn't give you back doubloons either, so you get back far less from the minigame than you did from the winter event. In winter the amount you could spend was around x1.36 the starting amount, in summer that's down to around x1.17. This means that with 1110 starting doubloons, you can spend just below 1300 doubloons, for 130 opened tiles, which equals 260 progress on average. That's 20 away from the 280 that is required. Using the simulator I made for the winter event (updated with summer event changes), I get the following distribution of players, with the red line being the required amount of progress. According to this, only 2.2% of players will be lucky enough to the to 280 progress.
This clearly needs to be improved. I think increasing daily quest reward to 15 doubloons and updating the doubloons from incidents to be in line with the winter event would be enough. That would give a 93.66% chance of getting 280 according to my simulator, with incidents to cover the rest.
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Currently, you can get:
* Starting: 20
* Quests: 67*10 = 670
* Logins: 32*10 = 320
* Milestones: 50+50 = 100
* Total: 1110 Doubloons
The "14 Stars" option has been removed, and picking up key fragments doesn't give you back doubloons either, so you get back far less from the minigame than you did from the winter event. In winter the amount you could spend was around x1.36 the starting amount, in summer that's down to around x1.17. This means that with 1110 starting doubloons, you can spend just below 1300 doubloons, for 130 opened tiles, which equals 260 progress on average. That's 20 away from the 280 that is required. Using the simulator I made for the winter event (updated with summer event changes), I get the following distribution of players, with the red line being the required amount of progress. According to this, only 2.2% of players will be lucky enough to the to 280 progress.
This clearly needs to be improved. I think increasing daily quest reward to 15 doubloons and updating the doubloons from incidents to be in line with the winter event would be enough. That would give a 93.66% chance of getting 280 according to my simulator, with incidents to cover the rest.
softly explorer
Baronet
At Grand Prize "100" (again a Level 1 Trading Post(!) ) it has to be a Trading Post Selection Kit (in my opinion)
CrashBoom
Legend
the new way of grand prizes:
less other things, only for the main event buildings
previously: every 2nd was something else (goods, FP, ...)
look at rewards starting from milestone 280
upgrade kits, golden fragments, upgrade kit, golden fragments, upgrade kit, base building, golden fragments, upgrade kit, golden fragments, upgrade kit, golden fragment
that are 11 in a row not giving something else than for the main building
doesn't fit into the pattern: upgrade every 2nd prize
replace it with 100 FP
less other things, only for the main event buildings
previously: every 2nd was something else (goods, FP, ...)
look at rewards starting from milestone 280
upgrade kits, golden fragments, upgrade kit, golden fragments, upgrade kit, base building, golden fragments, upgrade kit, golden fragments, upgrade kit, golden fragment
that are 11 in a row not giving something else than for the main building
3 upgrades in a row (80.100.120)
doesn't fit into the pattern: upgrade every 2nd prize
replace it with 100 FP
.Chris
Baronet
We have been over this so many times now...
This additional Lvl 1 is intended for those who purchase the Event Pass.
It is located between two GPs therefore it doesn't take anything away from the Non-Paying players; it simply replaces a useless reward.
CrashBoom
Legend
you expect that there would an useless reward
but FP and goods would always be something useful
for non-paying players it takes away one other reward (and even useless it can be sold for a few hundred dealer coins)
because those player only build one building anyway
nobody would build a 2nd to have it at a low level (worst case: at level 1)
and according to the calculating above (thanks for that) non-paying players don't even get the first one fully levelled
if those players need it then put it into the event pass prizes
SirAlucard
Steward
I do see a pattern, since the anniversary event we aren't even able to complete at least one of the new event buildings without spending diamonds or paying the event pass. At the anniversary event I was only able to get a level 8 on Beta, level 9 on my main and side world. Wildlife event also one upgrade short, calculations make it clear that in this event also one upgrade short for at least the highest level without the golden upgrade. In my opinion, Inno changed their course of action for the worse and let greed take over. Honestly, forcing people to pay for something out of the blue, that was previously for free, drives these people away. It's a simple calculation: the greedier you get, the less you focus on what is important: the satisfaction of your customers -> unsatisfite customers start to complain for a while until they realize that the course of action doesn't change -> the customers start to leave. Yeah, new customers may show up, but in smaller numbers than the leaving ones and with a much lower chance to spend money in the same amount, if at all. I say it again for you, Inno, you're biting the hand, that feeds you, and that will hurt you in the long run. I don't ask for the free golden upgrade, but IMO players should be free to at least get the new building to the normal max level without diamonds and money. And also beware, you're drifting into the same direction that e.g. EA drifted a few years back: you're focusing more and more on real money gambling. This means in many countries your game will at least get an 18+/R-rating in the long run, again, this will only hurt you.
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In anniversary and wildlife it was/is possible to get the main building fully leveled if you play well (and can wait), the difference here is that it's purely based on luck, with extremely poor odds. I expect there to be some changes to make it possible here as well.
@MooingCat very true, on most Dutch servers currently 20%+ of participant of anniversary have gotten sufficient progress for the golden upgrade. It's achievable but tricky. However I'm a bit nervous for the pirate event. Like you've pointed out the lack of the 14 event currency drops the likelihood of getting the grand prize semi-maxed out (without golden upgrade). Though hopefully a rebalance will happen soon-ish to fix the issue.
Visible = viable, my auto-correct changed it. Slipped through it when I was rereading my post.