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Feedback Daily Changelog w/c 3rd January
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iPenguinPat
Squire
Happy New Year @Juber .
Following up on your 2021 recap post (https://forum.beta.forgeofempires.com/index.php?threads/forge-of-empires-recap-2021.15243/) you said "In terms of heal all, that is also being worked on currently, and we hope to have a solution early in 2022."
Are you able to speak at all to the type of solution that developers are looking at? Can you give more of a timeline besides early 2022? This has been an issue for several months now, and we haven't heard anything to indicate what type of solution we can expect.
Will the heal all button simply be relocated so that it's not as easy to click by mistake?
Will the windows realign so that the auto battle button and the after battle confirmation are overlapping again? (so we can fast fight again?)
Do the developers clearly understand the various aspects of why players are so frustrated with the heal all button currently?
After short breaks, I keep going back to GVG to test and see if it's fun again. Each time, after getting through a few dozen fights, the fighting stops being fun and starts being tedious again.
In the past, if I had access to sectors that were full with 8 DAs, I would always wipe them out. Now, I regularly skip out and don't bother coming back later to finish the job. The magnetic draw of fast pace gvg combat (or gbg, or any other repeated fighting) has been replaced with tedious click drills. if I wanted to do tedious click drills, I'd use an aim trainer or go play whack-a-mole at the local chuck-e-cheese.
As you know, I love this community and obviously have a passion for Forge of Empires; I'm trying to stay patient and not let my friends and followers down. A lot of players that I've talked to are feeling the same way. It's hard to light that fire back up once it burns out.
I have some news regarding Heal All, just look at the Changelog posted a couple of minutes before your post ^^
In regards of how it is changed: From the concept art it looks like it will be moved into the blue header above the units on the left side. This probably also means, that the auto battle is aligned again, but we will see for sure tomorrow.
In regards of how it is changed: From the concept art it looks like it will be moved into the blue header above the units on the left side. This probably also means, that the auto battle is aligned again, but we will see for sure tomorrow.
I just noticed something I want to share with you: There is a small chance, that it will not change it's position tomorrow already. This is because it was changed for the browser version, however the task is not yet finished completely. Since it is a browser-only problem, it should be done, but until the task is finished it's not 100% certain. However, it is very unlikely, that it is not moved. In case it is not moved, it will be done in the next couple of days
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iPenguinPat
Squire
Great news. thanks for the update.I have some news regarding Heal All, just look at the Changelog posted a couple of minutes before your post ^^
In regards of how it is changed: From the concept art it looks like it will be moved into the blue header above the units on the left side. This probably also means, that the auto battle is aligned again, but we will see for sure tomorrow.
Funny, i had literally just checked the daily changelog before i drafted the post.
outoftheline
Squire
yay, i won!
sorry it took me so long, you guys
sorry it took me so long, you guys
Pericles the Lion
Emperor
I'm definitely not one to defend INNO but I can understand the 120-day rumination. There was a lot of uproar over the 2000 abort limit but it really died out fast. I think because most players, myself included, don't come close to aborting 2000 quests daily. In the case of the Heal All button, the uproar did not die out, it only got worse and I'm thinking INNO realized that they were really alienating a core group of players. Personally, I would have preferred INNO being more transparent and communicative but I'm happy that the useless button is being moved out of the way.
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Devilsangel
Baronet
The uproar died out because mostly its relevant when a new age comes out, when a lot of people do the quests and need goods. It might appear again in spring)
The 2000 aborts are reached pretty fast if you're active and need the goods)
The 2000 aborts are reached pretty fast if you're active and need the goods)
I don't have official information on that, but I personally think, that this is the main reason. Players always complain about changes. However, it is not as bad or even better than it was previously. For example I also disliked the abort limit and thought it was way too low, however, I have adapted to it and since never even reached it. Other changes like the new map initially had only negative feedback and now, many prefer the new map. Maybe the devs thought, that it would be the same with the Heal All button. I myself changed where I move my mouse after clicking auto battle, so was almost as fast as previously, however, it is still annoying to move your mouse every time. Other did not adapt and have even lost their interest in GvG and fighting in general. And the complaints did not stop, almost nobody gave positive feedback on it.
I tried giving you guys as much information as possible, for example in the Recap as an example. I am sorry, that I could not do more. However, it seems like the whole "more transparency" thing might get improved this year. You will receive some information about the Forge Bowl Event tomorrow.
Because it took you so long, you only get one cookie, instead of 2!yay, i won!
sorry it took me so long, you guys
Pericles the Lion
Emperor
@Juber, by no means did I mean to imply that you were part of the lack of transparency. To the contrary, I feel that you were sharing what you were permitted to share - and perhaps even a bit more. Thank you.I tried giving you guys as much information as possible, for example in the Recap as an example. I am sorry, that I could not do more. However, it seems like the whole "more transparency" thing might get improved this year. You will receive some information about the Forge Bowl Event tomorrow.
iPenguinPat
Squire
I don't have official information on that, but I personally think, that this is the main reason. Players always complain about changes. However, it is not as bad or even better than it was previously. For example I also disliked the abort limit and thought it was way too low, however, I have adapted to it and since never even reached it. Other changes like the new map initially had only negative feedback and now, many prefer the new map. Maybe the devs thought, that it would be the same with the Heal All button. I myself changed where I move my mouse after clicking auto battle, so was almost as fast as previously, however, it is still annoying to move your mouse every time. Other did not adapt and have even lost their interest in GvG and fighting in general. And the complaints did not stop, almost nobody gave positive feedback on it.
I tried giving you guys as much information as possible, for example in the Recap as an example. I am sorry, that I could not do more. However, it seems like the whole "more transparency" thing might get improved this year. You will receive some information about the Forge Bowl Event tomorrow.
Many other games have a Trello board that they use to keep track of bugs, features etc for players to know what's coming down the line. it would almost definitely smooth show a lot of goodwill if players had something like that to see that they were being heard. i realize that might not work with the internal workflow though.
podkap1970
Emperor
since the patch from yesterday i can't play with FF anymore
anyone else have this issue?
its empty and no i do have some military units
or when i collect my city, its looks weird, can't really describe it, like when i have not enough memory (RAM/VRAM) (i had this problem when i played another game at same time), but atm i have only the FF open
when i try to negotiate, i can't choose the goods/coins etc, it does not really popup, like i said memory issue
with MS Edge i don't have problems at all, hmm
anyone else have this issue?
its empty and no i do have some military units or when i collect my city, its looks weird, can't really describe it, like when i have not enough memory (RAM/VRAM) (i had this problem when i played another game at same time), but atm i have only the FF open
when i try to negotiate, i can't choose the goods/coins etc, it does not really popup, like i said memory issue
with MS Edge i don't have problems at all, hmm
Have you tried clearing your cache? Firefox has some issues with it sometimes.since the patch from yesterday i can't play with FF anymore
anyone else have this issue?
View attachment 7667 its empty and no i do have some military units
or when i collect my city, its looks weird, can't really describe it, like when i have not enough memory (RAM/VRAM) (i had this problem when i played another game at same time), but atm i have only the FF open
when i try to negotiate, i can't choose the goods/coins etc, it does not really popup, like i said memory issue
with MS Edge i don't have problems at all, hmm
Matteozzzo
Squire
The lesson is: if we want to get a change from Inno, we have to complain insistently for at least 4 months.
Yekk
Regent
I dislike the word complain which is seen as a negative. Aggrieved, insulted, or offended fit better. Especially considering the ease of the change and the fact NOBODY using a computer liked the healing button.
Lets see if Inno fixes the other problems, does realistic balancing, actually considers what established players request... If this had been done months ago I would have considered it a plus but the very fact it took months leaves a very bitter taste in my mouth...
Lets see if Inno fixes the other problems, does realistic balancing, actually considers what established players request... If this had been done months ago I would have considered it a plus but the very fact it took months leaves a very bitter taste in my mouth...
podkap1970
Emperor
hmm that really worked, thank you