Feedback Soccer Cup 2020

[Kenric]

I managed to get both buildings to 6 only because they awarded league rewards twice, and I did all the quests, and felt like I was getting abundant energy drinks from incidents. Without the double league award, I would have fallen short, so I think that should be adjusted, and I'm afraid the double league rewards will stop you from getting that feedback.

 

[Thunderdome]

are you seriously?Also in St.patrick day, the majority don't finished the set at lvl 2 in live server; now the question is that:why I managed easily and got all the pieces without spending diamonds without stressing over there? in the 2nd world I got 11 pieces because I won 2k pots by incidents

Don't know if you had read my posts, mate. I did provide my dos centavos for this event only, not for any other event in the two years that I managed to walk out with at least one fully upgraded building, both on beta and live servers, without spending any diamonds; so I can give a toss about other events.

And as in a western, the only way you might be able to get something so easily is either you are cheatin' or lyin'. So which one are you?

 

[Sinitar]

Don't know if you had read my posts, mate. I did provide my dos centavos for this event only, not for any other event in the two years that I managed to walk out with at least one fully upgraded building, both on beta and live servers, without spending any diamonds; so I can give a toss about other events.

And as in a western, the only way you might be able to get something so easily is either you are cheatin' or lyin'. So which one are you?

none of 2...I said that here I spending diamonds to see the mechanisms, and in "live severs" not here,to applie my way how to get thats pieces without spending diamonds...Also without the twice silver league rewards here,if I was now in server live,I'll gain an extra piece because I got arround 1500 drinks by incidents + 9330 from event, are a total of 10830 considering that each field I spended are arround 900 drinks;900 x 12 fields are 10800 drinks ;oh look I had+10 drinks avalaible after the latest shot of tonight..this is enought if you aren't reach the silver league but I reached
90% of shots of tournament I spended to hard difficulty

 

[Thunderdome]

Please, let's avoid attacking one another and focus on the event itself. For those who found themselves in the hobby league, was it fewer tickets, lots of lost matches? Do you think you could have chosen your battles more wisely? For those who did well, do you know why you did well or do you just feel it was down to luck?

I figured this warrants a response by itself aside from the "usual" replies when it comes to feedback. So, I am going to answer with each line:

Hobby League: Fewer Tickets?

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The number of tickets didn't have much to do with it. It's pretty much the points given after "winning" a match, if you won that is. The next section will explain why I said this bit.​

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Hobby League: Lots of Lost Matches?

I had wasted a good amount of tourney tickets to get lost matches in the medium lineup than in the easy one, especially in ones that have my odds at 70%+ with a team that is 3 to 4 levels (each one) above my opponent. For example, I had a 8, 7, 9, 7, 6 for a team while the opponent had 5, 4, 6, 3, 5 that placed me at 83%. Thinking I would win because of my odds and my team that is going against the opponent, I click on the ticket to start the game and only came out disappointed when it said "You Lost". Lost on a match that I worked hard on my players in getting cards (not spending a diamond) to level up? What's the real point in leveling up your players only to be losing to "petty" teams if it isn't luck?​

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Chosen Battles More Wisely?

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When I first started, I did lose a few matches in the easy lineup. After looking at the icon to the right, I figured it would be a "rock-paper-scissors" type of game (Attacker beats Midfielder, Midfielder beats Defender, Defender beats Attacker), so I went with that. After winning a few easy ones with this mindset, I set out onto winning some of the medium ones. I knew which ones I can win (as I check beforehand before engaging) and which ones I can avoid until next time. Again, as with previous and going up against opponents that are low leveled, it felt I wasted tickets rather than getting the spoils of my hard work. Which will lead to my final section...​

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Down to Luck?

Like the Carnival games in the past, I believe this is based on luck as well. No way in hell can a great team lose to just an inferior one and allow them to get away with it. I had initially thought this event (and mini game) as a game of skill, but now it's a game of luck. And, if I wanted to play something like that, I would play an online casino game instead.​

 

[AllamHRK]

none of 2...I said that here I spending diamonds to see the mechanisms, and in "live severs" not here,to applie my way how to get thats pieces without spending diamonds...Also without the twice silver league rewards here,if I was now in server live,I'll gain an extra piece because I got arround 1500 drinks by incidents + 9330 from event, are a total of 10830 considering that each field I spended are arround 900 drinks;900 x 12 fields are 10800 drinks ;oh look I had+10 drinks avalaible after the latest shot of tonight..this is enought if you aren't reach the silver league but I reached
90% of shots of tournament I spended to hard difficulty

1,500 drinks per incident ??? Wow you are a legend! I want to be like you when I grow up!

 

[Sinitar]

1,500 drinks per incident ??? Wow you are a legend! I want to be like you when I grow up!

I'm not the only one who taked many energy drinks

i got 1865 Energy Drinks out of my incidents so far, and i'm sure thats a lot

 

[revrick]

@1CCX I don't feel your experience with this event will have much resemblance to others. Your levels of 29-30 show a great deal of diamonds having been spent, and your %'s on winning are much much different than mine (around lvl 10 at the end). The Hards i had about a 20% to win, the mediums about 50% and the easy's about 75%.

I lost 8 ~50% matches in a row on medium difficultly and ended just below the silver league. was a bit frustrating.

 

[Sinitar]

@1CCX I don't feel your experience with this event will have much resemblance to others. Your levels of 29-30 show a great deal of diamonds having been spent, and your %'s on winning are much much different than mine (around lvl 10 at the end). The Hards i had about a 20% to win, the mediums about 50% and the easy's about 75%.

I lost 8 ~50% matches in a row on medium difficultly and ended just below the silver league. was a bit frustrating.

excuse me,where you have seen that?my team have at max lvl 15 not 29-30
this was my last shot https://prnt.sc/sp1rve

 

[Umbrathor]

I'm an exception if I got 1470 drinks by incidents?someone has replied here that he won 2k drinks!!where's this exception you mean against me?

That was 2k pots of gold during St Patricks. [Edit: I see you also mention @podkap1970 , who said already that she was lucky in getting so many energy drinks.] I think the amount you found was not representative, and even with the high amaount of energy drinks it still seems like you managed to get more upgrades than expected. Either well done, or lucky.

 

[Sinitar]

That was 2k pots of gold during St Patricks.

I also got 2k pots of gold in 1 of 2 worlds in live server ..read the latest reply,please

 

[AllamHRK]

I'm not the only one who taked many energy drinks

It is very convenient to state something that 1% or less of the players achieved as the reality of everyone in the event is not.

The fact is that 99% of the players did not get these 1,500 Energy Drinks from incidents, as it comes down to luck and not something that everyone would achieve with effort and dedication.

So to say that it is possible to close the 2 buildings on level 6 without spending diamonds and without reaching the silver alloy, is it wrong?

 

[Havik79]

Well that sucked, using best chance for daily and ended up with 5/6 front 4/6 back, although I got a selection kit from the end of the event and one from the amateur league, and they always nerf it for live.

 

[Sinitar]

It is very convenient to state something that 1% or less of the players achieved as the reality of everyone in the event is not.

The fact is that 99% of the players did not get these 1,500 Energy Drinks from incidents, as it comes down to luck and not something that everyone would achieve with effort and dedication.

So to say that it is possible to close the 2 buildings on level 6 without spending diamonds and without reaching the silver alloy, is it wrong?

no,gaining drinks by incidents is only a bonus,not a guarantee but for me is always a guarantee
the primary indicator is the tournament, and to gain much points,is to play with hard difficulty

 

[Edwin the First]

Ich spiele hier seit einem Monat und ich habe beide auf Stufe 6.

I've been playing here for a month and I have both at level 6.

 

[AllamHRK]

no,gaining drinks by incidents is only a bonus,not a guarantee but for me is always a guarantee
the primary indicator is the tournament, and to gain much points,is to play with hard difficulty

That's what I'm talking about, even if you play the best way possible at the best cost / benefit ratio with only what you get for free by completing 100% of the event, it doesn't guarantee the complete building.

Do the math, simulate it ... without those 1,500 energy drinks from incidents and without the silver alloy, you would get the complete building.

PS. Obviously, playing in the biggest difficulties in the tournament will give you greater rewards and maybe a small chance of reaching the silver league, but that is not guaranteed, as it depends on your server and how many "full cash" you have on it, which spend thousands of diamonds on each event.

 

[The Babelus]

This was very bad event

1. I do not want to say everybody should get grand prize full upgraded. We had St. Patric‘s Day and it was quite difficult to find proper strategy to achieve full set level 2
2. However here to get both buildings level 6 you have to spend at least two thousand diamonds and still you can be unlucky
3. The tracks have sense only when you have both buildings and it is still questionable. Track for FPs? 1FP for 4 tiles is unattractive. When chained to both buildings, ok 2FPs for 4 tiles is nice.
Another two tracks are useless even when connected two both buildings. 6% defense for attacking army per 4 tiles? I can plant rather 3 sentinel outposts level 1 and save 1 tile ... not mentioning I can place level 2 outposts

Suggestions:
Give 2 selection kits as reward for bronze league or give more energy drinks to get one more upgrade kit by scroing goals
Chnage track (Rousioi) for defense of attacking army to give 4% instead of 3.

 

[Sinitar]

PS. Obviously, playing in the biggest difficulties in the tournament will give you greater rewards and maybe a small chance of reaching the silver league, but that is not guaranteed, as it depends on your server and how many "full cash" you have on it, which spend thousands of diamonds on each event.

small change?nah a 60% to chance to get the silver league

 

[Umbrathor]

small change?nah a 60% to chance to get the silver league

If your premise is: 'playing the hardest matches in the tournament and not spending diamonds' then 60% is definitely wrong. The Silver league is the top 5% so without spending diamonds it is definitely not a 60% chance to get into the Silver league.

 

[Outlaw Dread]

.... do you just feel it was down to luck?

yes

I enjoy an event that rewards a good strategy, like Archeology.

St. Paddy’s was simply getting rewarded for figuring out a convoluted, poorly explained and very rigid game-play that allowed very little creativity in how you played it.

Soccer 2020 tournament goes down that same road. Regardless of strategy used, no discernible impact on outcomes. As a test, I used the default players for 50% of interactions, and used the best possible matchups for the others. Yes, extremely small sample size, yada, yada. Result: no difference in wins and losses between the 2 groups.

Whether or not there is a statistical difference, that’s not relevant to a game. The fun is seeing a better outcome when making a determined effort to apply the best strategy. The outcomes certainly appear very arbitrary, and that is ‘just not fun’. At the end of the day, if I’m not entertained, I won’t spend time playing, or paying……

 

[AllamHRK]

small change?nah a 60% to chance to get the silver league

Where did you get that 60%? Explain please.

The Silver League corresponds to 5% of the server's best scores.

Let's say you have 100 players on the server ... if 6 or more of those players spend a large amount of diamonds the value of that 5% will go up with them, so a player who spends nothing will never qualify for the Silver League.

Even if he plays the 93 free tickets of the event in hard matches even though he wins all that is impossible, there is still no guarantee that he will end up in the gold or silver league. This depends on how many "full cash" players you have on the server you are playing on.

Stop trying to sell this illusion that you have control over everything in an event of this type, because in reality you control virtually nothing, everything is much more up to luck than to the player's performance ... the proof of that is that most are speaking here on this forum, if it were the opposite, there would be many more people praising the event than criticizing, wouldn't you agree?