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Updates without changelog?

Gamer2412

Merchant
Are there updates without notifications or changelogs?

Today I had to restart the game two time because the session had a timeout...

When looking at the game version I see 1.61.f7308fb (01.10.2015 12:01). The date changed two times today, therefore are there any new versions?

Even minor changes should be anounced to users at beta. Else it is difficult to determine errors reliable. And I thought it was the job of beta to find bugs before hitting the productive servers...
 

DeletedUser5800

Guest
And I thought it was the job of beta to find bugs before hitting the productive servers...

Unfortunately it appears it isn't the job of the developers to fix the bugs before hitting the productive servers.
 

DeletedUser

Guest
We do find the bugs.
It's how they are prioritized to be fixed is what is affecting all of you the most.
 

Gamer2412

Merchant
That's clear, that not all bugs are fixed because they are prioritized different.

But at least it is helpful for us users to know what changed when a new version (even a minor) is installed...
 

DeletedUser5800

Guest
We do find the bugs.
It's how they are prioritized to be fixed is what is affecting all of you the most.

Ridiculous argument. You wait and until bugs have been fixed before going to live server. Simple!!!!

Prioritising those fixes is fine but don't go live with the feature until it is fully functioning. Don't just listen to feedback actually action it. If your customers are telling you something causes them physical discomfort for heavens sake rectify it immediately especially when it should be a relatively simple think to do. Don't try and sell it as something beneficial when you've received feedback it isn't.

Innogames (via moderators) have so many excuses why not to do something it is like dealing with a five year old. Just get on with doing the job properly instead of this poor excuse of software development.
 

DeletedUser

Guest
everybody has the right to get bugs

not only the players on the beta server
that is why all bugs are released on the normal servers before they are fixed
 

DeletedUser

Guest
Ridiculous argument. You wait and until bugs have been fixed before going to live server. Simple!!!!

Prioritising those fixes is fine but don't go live with the feature until it is fully functioning. Don't just listen to feedback actually action it. If your customers are telling you something causes them physical discomfort for heavens sake rectify it immediately especially when it should be a relatively simple think to do. Don't try and sell it as something beneficial when you've received feedback it isn't.

Innogames (via moderators) have so many excuses why not to do something it is like dealing with a five year old. Just get on with doing the job properly instead of this poor excuse of software development.

It wasn't an argument or an excuse, it's a statement of fact.
The support staff does everything in it's power to get everything fixed that is reported, but we do not have any influence over the devs. We can't force them to fix things, nor can we get them to postpone live updates, no matter how hard we try (case in point, the message system, that we begged them not to release).
 

DeletedUser5800

Guest
It wasn't an argument or an excuse, it's a statement of fact.
The support staff does everything in it's power to get everything fixed that is reported, but we do not have any influence over the devs. We can't force them to fix things, nor can we get them to postpone live updates, no matter how hard we try (case in point, the message system, that we begged them not to release).

This is why it has been said on a number of occasions that there needs to be a representative from Innogames in the forums who can influence things. It is cowardly on their part to hide behind volunteers or even CM's that have no real power and have to take all the flak.
 
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