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[Feedback] The Virgo Project / Stargazer

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by NormaJeane, May 2, 2019.

  1. Markus Stormrider

    Markus Stormrider Lieutenant

    Apr 26, 2016
    told ya it would be june at least :) i hope it will be second week, when i get back from vacation ;)
  2. Logain Sedai

    Logain Sedai Lieutenant Colonel

    Feb 18, 2013
    This is fine with me. It is better to wait a little and have a fully tested, tried and possibly corrected new age. Rather than starting it and having to suffer from modifications.
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  3. Lady Bulgar

    Lady Bulgar Lieutenant Colonel

    Dec 6, 2013
    Hahahahahaha. It'll go live, arguments and all, at the originally scheduled time. History has shown Innerf are fine with fixing massive problems like this weeks after it's live... If they bother at all.
  4. ianscottclark

    ianscottclark Second Lieutenant

    May 5, 2014
    The feedback I've been getting in my live worlds from the heavy diamond buyers I know is that if TVP comes out as is they'll stop buying diamonds.
    What they've said to me is that if after a couple of years of heavy spending on the game to make their cities just about invulnerable that money they've spent turns out to have been wasted, then even those that don't quit entirely will stop spending.
    Personally I've always believed that you lose more in lost production by dedicating too much of your city to defence than you possibly could from the occaisional plunder, so it won't make that much difference to my main world apart from letting me sell loads of SAM goods, but they asked me to pass on their views so that's what I've done.
  5. PrinceArthur

    PrinceArthur Chief Warrant Officer Fledgling

    May 10, 2014
    A quick feedback from me for The Virgio Project: a rebalancing should be considered.
    1. It's passive bonus for battle is similar compared to what Kraken and Arctic Orangery feature. Considering that the Virgio Project doesn't produce fp, though, I would expect it should deliver at least the number of chances per day that the Kraken does, if not more as it's much higher in age. The percentage and percentage increases for the chance I think is OK, but the number of chances per day is quite off considering it's higher in age than the Kraken and doesn't produce any fp.
    2. It's production bonus is quite off as well. Right now it's more like an EMA Bonus like the Cathedral of Aachen produces ... but considering it's WAY higher in age it should be producing way more coins! More like 1 Million increase every 10 levels would be what I would kind of expect.
  6. The Envoy

    The Envoy InnoGames Game Designer Staff Member Beta Admin

    Nov 5, 2018
    Just chiming in to give you an update on The Virgo Project.
    Due to your passionate discussions about neighbourhood attacks, we decided to exclude the missile launch skill from neighbourhood attacks.
    Expect an update about this soon (somewhen in the next few weeks). :)

    Also, thank you for bringing this up!
  7. FinkAdele

    FinkAdele General

    Aug 17, 2017
    That's nice.

    I hope you realize now there will be no point in building it at all and you throw in FPs to the deal :D
    rch7497, KingJase24, Mr.Quib and 2 others like this.
  8. Eumeria

    Eumeria Chief Warrant Officer

    Mar 24, 2019
    Get some FPs production, in one of these GBs
    Thats enough for me :)

    Thank you :)
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  9. hiep lin

    hiep lin Second Lieutenant

    Aug 1, 2018
    I do not support the addition of fp.
    the possibility of having fp is more and more important.
    players can move or climb the GB faster and faster, even beginners through the arcs of other players.

    On the contrary the speed of evolution of the guilds has changed little (only with the expeditions).

    That's why I advocate a bonus that allows guilds to gain power. No GB does this - Full of GB give fp.
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  10. ipenguinpat

    ipenguinpat Master Corporal

    Jan 28, 2019
    Funny, in my polling of top diamond buyers/spenders on Korch, they all think TVP is "garbage" "lame" "a waste of space" and don't really care. I'd like changes (because it sucks) and think it's crazy anyone is worried about it. At least we can agree we'd like changes, even if for opposite reasons :)

    Adding guild power to one of these GBs would be awesome. New guilds are at a major disadvantage to old guilds due to recruitment bonus. Support pool/fp/etc are whatever, but having 10-15% lower recruitment bonus really adds up over the course of a couple of months.
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  11. Dan 49 the fearless

    Dan 49 the fearless Sergeant

    Dec 8, 2016
    Goods post FE only have value if people are going to use them to build GBs. Without a good SAM Great Building, the value of the goods will be next to nothing. I hope that Inno will do more to revamp them than simply take away the ability to hit the neighborhood
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  12. rontom

    rontom Lieutenant

    Jun 7, 2017
    I really hope they get the adjustment right because as things stand there is little incentive to take any of my live cities into SAM. I find it demands much more of my time than any other age and while i like the new colony feature the GB's are just about useless which means the SAM goods will be too. Better to stay in VF raking in FE goods that will always have a sale and GvG value
  13. mariedo

    mariedo Corporal

    Nov 13, 2016
    This GB will no longer have any interest ... This game becomes more and more boring ...
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  14. HossamAly

    HossamAly Master Corporal

    Mar 17, 2018
    I really hope after 10 pages of feedback inno gets that there's more to fix in this GB than simply excluding neighbourhood attacks
  15. Miepie

    Miepie Captain

    May 26, 2015

    That makes it the most useless GB you've released in a long long time hahahahahaha nice work :rolleyes:

    Sorry to tell you but tweaking the current virgo is useless, you should go back to the drawing board and try again. Just dump the whole current idea in the bin and start from scratch (well you can keep the graphics)
  16. KingJase24

    KingJase24 Lieutenant

    Dec 15, 2017
    I hate to point out the obvious, but you do understand that was literally the ONLY point of building the thing? Why in the name of all the Forge gods would anyone build it now? To get one free GvG battle out of hundreds a day? This GB has now gone from being awful to utterly useless.

    I challenge you (respectfully, of course :) ) to provide a rationale for this trash heap. I was never going to build it anyway since I don't need it to get through neighborhood defenses, but at least in the past there was a sales hook as a bully/plunderer-deterrent. Couple this with Stargazer and you've completely wrecked SA:M GBs. Like releasing Colosseum and Gaea Statue. You wait over a year for a new GBs and it's, well, this. Like a kid waiting for Christmas all year and getting a lump of coal.

    You can still fix it by adding a Kraken-esque FP bonus. It would still be mediocre, but at least "abysmal shipwreck of a GB" wouldn't be applicable the way it is right now.
  17. KingJase24

    KingJase24 Lieutenant

    Dec 15, 2017
    FAR more. It needs to be souped UP, not down. They took a car with a smoking engine and their solution was to yank out the transmission.
  18. Forwandert

    Forwandert Private

    Mar 18, 2017
    So for app players this is now practically a redundant GB from launch on live servers? Once the SAM campaign map is done. We would have to stretch GE over 7 days to make any use of it.
  19. Darth Vader The Mighty

    Darth Vader The Mighty Chief Warrant Officer

    Jun 26, 2018
    So there are so many ideas and suggestions in this topic and what you do? You took the worst possible idea that was mentioned here and implement it. So a very bad GB is now even worse! You should instead admit that original Virgo idea was bad and remade it as a whole. Many people including me already told you that this "kraken" is not interesting. But no, you keep it (I wonder if it is just out of pride or why???) and make it more useless. But hey, there is a silver lining, because if you actually made it good, I would have to build it (and pay insane amount of FPs to SA:M players for goods). Now I can focus on my other buildings which I am still leveling and skip SA:M alltogether. Also if it stays like this there is no reason to enter SA:M for high end players who make quite a bit of income from selling goods.
    griaxe, dolphin, FinkAdele and 2 others like this.
  20. rch7497

    rch7497 Master Corporal

    Mar 29, 2016
    Let's look on the bright side. Players now do not need to spend thousands of FP on new GB. :D
    In general, it is, of course, sad if this is the only change from Innogames after such a flow of feedback.
    Last edited: May 18, 2019