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Feedback Winter Event 2023

I don't get the complaints about the incidents. Maybe the complainers are really unlucky but I have received stars from incidents. Not as much as the teeth during the halloween event - teeth are less valuable than stars - but still maybe 7-9 times. Hard to recollect over one month period.
 

CrashBoom

Legend
I don't get the complaints about the incidents. Maybe the complainers are really unlucky but I have received stars from incidents. Not as much as the teeth during the halloween event - teeth are less valuable than stars - but still maybe 7-9 times. Hard to recollect over one month period.
FoeHelper says: 50 stars in total (1x 20 and 1x 30): that is very low
EDIT: for incidents the FoeHelper lists 10 stars as shuffle (because from the board 10 stars would be shuffle). I got "7 shuffle" as incidents. so 9 times stars, in total 120 stars

and where I have a reason to complain: key parts in daily challenge.
definitely below the value I should have won according to the percentages
not even once I got the 5 parts. and too often just 1 or 2

and for luck factor
I won 18 keys on the boards (good)
but only 11 times show 2 (FoeHelper shows that just as 3 stars for the people who want to look there): bad
14 stars: 12 times. also very low
but 28 shuffle
(for the strategy: I stopped when I found the key or played the board until the shuffle if no key on that board but if I was playing it)
 
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Deleted User - 57457

Guest
I want to ask this question and ask for some legitimate positive replies. With each of the new events and improvements to the event buildings in stats, at what point are the vast majority of Great Buildings going to be obsolete? GE5 rolls out and everyone jumps to get the DC and SBC buildings to help them fight in GE5 but There are currently event buildings much smaller which can easily replace one of those GBs. A Deal Castle at level 89 gives 70% for att/def for city defense. 3 Monster Wares Boutiques can easily replace that one Great Building. So when a player gets so many event buildings which not only match but over come the stats for GBs where will our FP go? Sure if you are in Titan you can focus it on the 3 new buildings. But for a long time player who has stayed in Future Era and plays all the events and continues their city in that era what will they focus their FP after their Arc gets to 180 and say Observatory to 130? The new event building already gives 11 troops and almost every smaller building in the Halloween and Fall events have given troops... why build an Alcatraz? Are players just going to continue to bank the FP like they do coins to the point they have a Gazillion stored?
Will we see introductions of lower age newer GBs which require more FP? Will some of the GBs get updates like Observatory when GvG goes away?
I've already given up on lifting :att_def_attacker_defender:% GB's. Keeping them around for aesthetic and nostalgic reasons. I've shifted my fp flow to other GB's that are offering a more secure beneficial buff. Things event buildings likely ain't getting: critical hit, Virgo, 1st strike, x2, etc.
It's more efficiently and economical to not using the :att_def_attacker_defender:% GB's and instead using event buildings. Also for units it's more efficiently to use royal bathhouse for the moment. Instant excess to all current age units w/o the need for researching them first and no need to invest fps. Imho it's strategically more advantageous to focus on GB's that offer buffs event buildings probably never adopt: Virgo, kraken, CF, AO and Arc. Virgo for example at lvl45/46 offers around 60% + 5 daily charges. No need to lift it further. Virgo+kraken allows to beat GE5 with much less :att_def_defender:%. Saving tons of goods on neg. and fortifications. While maintaining excess to 20%:fpboost: and additional :att_def_attacker_defender:%. For that reason it's quite useful and more valuable to me than any:att_def_defender:% GB. The other GB's I've mentioned are no brainers. From those core GB's you could branch off to space carrier. For space ages to retroactively collect Mars ore. Assuming an age rush towards SAAB for more favourable battles. From there on it's possible to branch off to more luxury GB's like himaji, flying island, relic temple for extra fps and other rewards. Alternatively obs for guild goods efficiently.

In summery, besides a few GB's offering unique buffs, I think we've already past the point where levelling attack/defence GB's make much sense. The exception however is hydra. For its decent efficiency + guild goods. The other exception would be young cities with Zeus + LoA. To kickstart their A/D and working towards post scarcity of resources (goods/supplies).


While winter event is quite nerfed. A few of the best event buildings are available as dailies. So, I'll might be investing some free diamonds into those. Alongside trying to picking up the grand event building to replace an stages of ages. If it's all achievable this event could still end in an succes.
 

kleopatra911

Marquis
I don't get the complaints about the incidents. Maybe the complainers are really unlucky but I have received stars from incidents. Not as much as the teeth during the halloween event - teeth are less valuable than stars - but still maybe 7-9 times. Hard to recollect over one month period.

just believe the reports, no need to "get" them ;) I found exactly one (in big letters ONE!) incident giving 20 stars (as logged by foe helper), might have missed one or other (due to not seeing, playing on mobile occasionally) .. wouldn't expect to have missed 6 to 8.

Actually it's the first time in ages that I feel unlucky - enough upgrades for a silver winter pyramid, but spend diamonds to get the golden choc upgrade. It's okay but probably not good enough to play on live servers (traditionally, don't have time over the holiday, anyways, so that's okay also :)
 

CrashBoom

Legend
just believe the reports, no need to "get" them ;) I found exactly one (in big letters ONE!) incident giving 20 stars (as logged by foe helper), might have missed one or other (due to not seeing, playing on mobile occasionally) .. wouldn't expect to have missed 6 to 8.
have you looked for "shuffle"-incidents in the FoeHelper incidents result ?

looks like the FoeHelper lists the 10 stars incidents as shuffle
 
I want to ask this question and ask for some legitimate positive replies. With each of the new events and improvements to the event buildings in stats, at what point are the vast majority of Great Buildings going to be obsolete? GE5 rolls out and everyone jumps to get the DC and SBC buildings to help them fight in GE5 but There are currently event buildings much smaller which can easily replace one of those GBs. A Deal Castle at level 89 gives 70% for att/def for city defense. 3 Monster Wares Boutiques can easily replace that one Great Building. So when a player gets so many event buildings which not only match but over come the stats for GBs where will our FP go? Sure if you are in Titan you can focus it on the 3 new buildings. But for a long time player who has stayed in Future Era and plays all the events and continues their city in that era what will they focus their FP after their Arc gets to 180 and say Observatory to 130? The new event building already gives 11 troops and almost every smaller building in the Halloween and Fall events have given troops... why build an Alcatraz? Are players just going to continue to bank the FP like they do coins to the point they have a Gazillion stored?
Will we see introductions of lower age newer GBs which require more FP? Will some of the GBs get updates like Observatory when GvG goes away?
That is a very interesting topic and deserves a separate thread because its increasing importance. There are still many players who are oblivious to the fact that power creep is making "standard" GB's - meaning GB's that used to be no-brainers - obsolete for their space or not worth the investment in FP.

For instance, what would you rather have: a lvl 71 CoA or an Aegaen Couples Resort+4 golden Sparkstorm towers? They take up the same space but IMO the second option is much better. You get good red att/def, lots of FP and goods and also frags. You even get blue att/def, which CoA does NOT give!
Just wait and see when Guild Raids and the third GBG map are released. Those will require blue stats and suddenly it will start to dawn on some players that their CoA is contributing nothing when they fight with blue stats. But the new event buildings do give blue stats... Oh, and they don't require any FP to level so you can focus those tens of thousands of FP in your AO or Arc.

AO is actually the best fighting GB in the game because it also effects blue stats battles. And the higher our stats are rising because of power creep, the less effect standard GB's like CoA and CdM are having on our battle results.

I'm currently buying packages of 15,000 Titan goods from Titan players for 6,000 FP in my live server and using those to level my Centaurus and Hydra to the moon. I foresee that they will remain competitive in 2024.
 

Kronan

Regent
I haven't seen a building give out free rogues yet, so a 'traz is going to be needed.
Not a chance. That remains poor advice to younger players just starting out. Great idea - choke your IA city for space to put that 70 square monster in. Have thousands of rogues without a TRAZ, in the IA. The GE gives them to you, so does the HC (and possibly SC, too). Never look back - go forward and break old (bad) advice. Liberate yourself.
 

Kronan

Regent
@Charles el Britannia said:

Those will require blue stats and suddenly it will start to dawn on some players that their CoA is contributing nothing when they fight with blue stats. But the new event buildings do give blue stats... Oh, and they don't require any FP to level so you can focus those tens of thousands of FP in your AO or Arc.

The ESSENCE of the new game. Well articulated.

It's breathtaking how something 6-12 months old already seems anemic. I'm reviewing stalwart items I just got recently, (like the Legendary Lodge or a 2nd Hero's Tavern!!) for Inno's new joy ride: Accumulate buildings that spawn family members, and then spawn children.

Buildings now bifurcate, or even trifurcate. This is what you have to seriously and STRATEGICALLY review now (Thanks to @Pirowars and @UBERhelp1 for their conceptual flow diagrams (Family TREES!!) to help player navigate the event families in recent gaming events...):


It's not easy anymore to be a GOOD MAYOR in your city these days.

Lots of study is required to CHART A COURSE where you want to go.

Dazzling choices, especially if you step UP to getting into the SILVER or GOLD event leagues, and make a commitment to continuous spawning design for something you like.

I enjoy this a lot more, but you have to set a goal for your city plan and study up from the events list, how to get there. Make no mistake though, the ERA of GB dominance is waning. Yes some will hold onto their dinosaurs, but....

Dinosaurs got taken out by the Chicxulub event. The power creep design of each new event coupled with new, improved (improving) revenue goals for Inno in the new FoE is doing the same thing to GBs... for the early adopters, and then the rest.

That doesn't mean you raze all your GBs. But it certainly means if you want to be a power player (not a GB collector), you put each NEW GB you want through a grueling examination of WHY YOU need it, and where (what level) does it give you that goal...

That's not a: I want, I need, I have to have issue.
 
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Ironrooster

Baronet
Well I reached 481 without spending diamonds. So I got the event building and the Ketebo candy delights.

I got a few stars from incidents, But by grouping my plays on 2 days I got some stars from hitting the calendar key more than once as well as hitting the daily shuffle several times.
 

UBERhelp1

Viceroy
With 11 hours left, here's my estimate of spending for the top 50 players. If you want to find the names for the players, I leave it up to you :)
RankProgressEst. Diamond Spend
1.5802299152
2.3875191240
3.3253156408
4.3024143584
5.2863134568
6.2511114856
7.2376107296
8.223399288
9.222298672
10.214094080
11.212993464
12.200386408
13.196884448
14.193182376
15.187279072
16.183076720
17.173371288
18.172270672
19.171970504
20.162365128
21.159863728
22.158162776
23.155361208
24.150858688
25.146656336
26.142954264
27.138151576
28.136450624
29.132148216
30.130247152
31.128346088
32.127945864
33.126945304
34.124543960
35.121342168
36.120141496
37.118840768
38.116639536
39.116639536
40.116439424
41.114138136
42.114038080
43.113137576
44.112437184
45.110035840
46.110035840
47.108034720
48.107434384
49.106133656
50.104632816
 

letho

Farmer
Evento péssimo, horrivel, decepcionante. Pior que já joguei nesses mais de dois anos de Forge of Empires.
 

Norde

Merchant
I was looking for something about the animation and was wondering... don't people know that you don't have to watch the match+candle animation?
Click anywhere other than the candle and the shelf in the event window.

Don't be surprised if you experience a visual bug because you're doing it too fast. When 18-19/20 houses are already lit, open one box, most likely it would increase over 20, short the animation, immediately open another box, short the animation. and what you will experience is that the counter will spin from 0 to 20 and then start again (to show the real value), while the entire row of houses does the same with lights. Not always working, like 2/1
 

Pirowars

Farmer
I am confused about one thing. In the diagram, the L3 and L4 Elfies show that they produce fragments of the base Wonderland Pyramid. However, the announcement released to the US servers says that the Level 3 Elfies produces frags of the Pyramid Silver Selection kit and the L4 Elfies produces fragments of the Pyramid Gold Selection kit. Do the Silver and Gold selection kits include the option to build/upgrade the base building?

Modification with Kit Fragments added for better reading


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Kronan

Regent
With 11 hours left, here's my estimate of spending for the top 50 players. If you want to find the names for the players, I leave it up to you :)
RankProgressEst. Diamond Spend
1.5802299152
2.3875191240
3.3253156408
4.3024143584
5.2863134568
6.2511114856
7.2376107296
8.223399288
9.222298672
10.214094080
11.212993464
12.200386408
13.196884448
14.193182376
15.187279072
16.183076720
17.173371288
18.172270672
19.171970504
20.162365128
21.159863728
22.158162776
23.155361208
24.150858688
25.146656336
26.142954264
27.138151576
28.136450624
29.132148216
30.130247152
31.128346088
32.127945864
33.126945304
34.124543960
35.121342168
36.120141496
37.118840768
38.116639536
39.116639536
40.116439424
41.114138136
42.114038080
43.113137576
44.112437184
45.110035840
46.110035840
47.108034720
48.107434384
49.106133656
50.104632816

Breathtaking.... OMG. For player 1 - best diamond deal if someone didn't have any and wanted to spend for ALL 300K would means 300K diamonds would cost ......?? US dollars? 600? 1000? What's the best diamond deal these days?

Merry Christmas #1....(and 2, and 3....etc.)
 
Breathtaking.... OMG. For player 1 - best diamond deal if someone didn't have any and wanted to spend for ALL 300K would means 300K diamonds would cost ......?? US dollars? 600? 1000? What's the best diamond deal these days?

Merry Christmas #1....(and 2, and 3....etc.)
I got a 200% offer yesterday. 33,000 diamonds for $79.99 USD.
 

Kronan

Regent
I got a 200% offer yesterday. 33,000 diamonds for $79.99 USD.
so 300/33 = 9.09
9 x $80 = $720 US minimum (or probably more) - or so to fund spending 300K diamonds.

Can someone repetitively buy 9 packs at that deep discount for each one of those 9? Or can you buy 1 at that discount, and varying rates for others. I guess you could accumulate discounted packs over time, and someone may have massively saved up to dump 300 K diamonds. So it could cost as LITTLE as 720, but probably a LOT more. This doesn't count earned/won/generated diamonds - but gives a picture of what it might cost to fund a 300K expenditure of diamonds.

Thanks @Pericles the Lion
 
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