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Virtual Future

Feanor II

Baronet
But you could play GvG AND have 30 HoF.

But I think it's a bit to much offtopic right now. This is the spoiler section for the virtual future and no discussion about how usefull GvG is.

I agree completely, but they "teased" the VF3 GB over a month ago and have been silent as a church mouse on it since, so we don't really have anything to discuss :(. I think we've squeezed the speculation fruit dry, so conversation is bound to wander off-topic until we get some fresh on-topic material.
 

DeletedUser7454

Guest
Actually GvG is the major cash revenue for Inno. Even if the buildings are not related to GvG most top players invest RL money to gain advantages in GvG. Look at the plots with multiple cherry blossom sets and pirate ships.

And yes HoFs bring more power to the guild then GvG -- and I know as we used to have 35K from GvG at most. Now we get 40K from HoFs ;). But GvG is the only thing what left after one reaches VF
 

DeletedUser

Guest
Except the post you're responding to didn't reference Guild Power (i.e. crowns per day), what was said was:



HoFs contribute crowns to raise the guild level, but they don't contribute Prestige other than indirectly via the 25-per-level increase, and Prestige is what the guild rankings are set by. You even acknowledged this in #429 (though you called it "spoiled ranking"). True, the rankings are simply for bragging rights and the HoFs will aid the leveling of the guild, but it's a game and a lot of people like to be #1 in games, or at least as high as they can get. A level 75 guild gives 1,875 Prestige, which will probably land you somewhere around 15th-25th depending on what world you play. If you want to be #1 (or at least compete for it), you must go to the GvG maps.

It appears, Mr. Retzsch, that the king has one more move ;)
Who is Mr. Retzsch...? :D

But right is on your side, I apologize for not reading with understanding :D
 

Feanor II

Baronet
Who is Mr. Retzsch...? :D

But right is on your side, I apologize for not reading with understanding :D

It's a joking chess reference to a Moritz Retzsch painting "Die Schachspieler " which depicted a supposedly hopeless chess situation that turns out to not be hopeless after all (since you said "checkmate"). However, that's a digression from the tangent from the original rabbit trail from the discussion about VF3 :)

Come on Inno, we're so desperate for new things to talk about on this thread were we're all the way down to 19th century German painters. Throw us a bone lol.
 

DeletedUser

Guest
But you could play GvG AND have 30 HoF.

But I think it's a bit to much offtopic right now. This is the spoiler section for the virtual future and no discussion about how usefull GvG is.
Not on the app, you don't. That was my point.

That is really a part of discussion over new bit of era, I think. Because no fixing GvG, no new maps, no GvG on app still... why? Because it's a relic from old ages and dust will cover it soon.
 

DeletedUser

Guest
It's a joking chess reference to a Moritz Retzsch painting "Die Schachspieler " which depicted a supposedly hopeless chess situation that turns out to not be hopeless after all (since you said "checkmate"). However, that's a digression from the tangent from the original rabbit trail from the discussion about VF3 :)

Come on Inno, we're so desperate for new things to talk about on this thread were we're all the way down to 19th century German painters. Throw us a bone lol.
The game seems to be more educative than I expected :) thanks for this insight into unnknown world of art!
 

DeletedUser9801

Guest
Changes that I want in game:
1a. The most important thing is to find a solution how to spend arctic, oceanic and virtual goods from guild inventory. This is the biggest fail of FOE, to produce some goods that are not even used. What is this? Where did you saw a such error in a high class game? Shame because buildings like Atomium or Observatory became almost useless from arctic era. Is not fare.
1b. A solution could be to add an extra map where we can use all these goods, or to invent a guild shop in the city where guild leaders can buy boost crates (one per day) for players with arctic, oceanic and virtual goods from guild inventory.

2a. There are too much medals in the game. We need something else to spend those medals.
2b. I want a Great Building that produce medals for the guild (for All ages map). And then to invent a Virtual Casino where we can play on a wheel with tavern silver, medals and diamonds to win some prices (not very big, like fragments at least). But for medals the more you play, the more expensive the wheel. Something similar to coins when you buy forge points, we get limited by the cost.

3a. Observatory great building is not very important from arctic era.
3b. Solution could be to select on this building the goods from which era we want to produce. But this change to be done only once per week for example.

4a. We need to improve the messages, only 4 topics per page is so frustrating.
4b. Add at least 8. Or invent some tabs where guild leaders can organize some topics. The chats where people donate fp to GB, can be put on a specific tab so when I open my messages I should not see those chats only if I go on that specific tab.

5a. To many special building in our inventory.
5b. Create a black market where we can sell those buildings like farms, sacred sky watch or tribal square and to receive different types of fragments.
 
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DeletedUser7454

Guest
3a. Observatory great building is not very important from arctic era.
3b. Solution could be to select on this building the goods from which era we want to produce. But this change to be done only once per week for example.
disagree -- in a GvG guild Observatory is a still a must as provides the defensive bonuses to the guild sector. Also they can be easily power leveled and those goods deposited in treasury also count towards individual ranking points.


But absolute yes on points 1 , 4 and 5

As for point 2, many medals -- it is subjective as mostly the top players have them in abundance. The vast majority of players still in need of them.
 

DeletedUser8859

Guest
Not on the app, you don't. That was my point.

That is really a part of discussion over new bit of era, I think. Because no fixing GvG, no new maps, no GvG on app still... why? Because it's a relic from old ages and dust will cover it soon.

I'm sad to agree.
 

Dessire

Regent
disagree -- in a GvG guild Observatory is a still a must as provides the defensive bonuses to the guild sector. Also they can be easily power leveled and those goods deposited in treasury also count towards individual ranking points.


But absolute yes on points 1 , 4 and 5

As for point 2, many medals -- it is subjective as mostly the top players have them in abundance. The vast majority of players still in need of them.
you are wrong .. observatory is nearly useless for guild if you only think about the "defensive bonus to the guild sector" why? i did the math, and i'll give you an example, imagine your guild is able to have 5 sectors in future era map with max defensive bonus. that means. 50% right? and if your guild get a 6th sector, that sector will have 0%. your guild, in order to have 2 to 3 more sectores with 50% needs 80 members and each one have observatory, st basil and deal castle at level 80. 80 members, with 3 GBs at level 80 for only 3 sectors! .. the required effort to have only 1 extra sector with max % defense is huge! ..so no.. observatory is not a must if you only think in defensive bonuses for sectors. if you don't belive me, do the maths. it only helps if your guild has the plan to conquer colony map for example, because you don't need so much levels in those GB to have al sectors of colonial map with max defensive bonus which is ..30%? XD
 

DeletedUser7454

Guest
I did the math. In my guild everybody has an observatory at level 6 many above. Mine is level 40. We cap the defensive bonus on GvG on every map which is far greater than 5 sectors. Did I mentioned my guild is level 73 and for about 2 years we were 1 of the top ten guilds on all US server. So please do not tell me that I do not know what I am saying!
 

Hiep Lin

Viceroy
Mine is level 40!
your observatory 40 = 193 Guild Support Pool.
in "future" 193/16 = 12.
for 17 100 pf you have 12% bonus on 1 sector

* Since the Ark, many players have huge attack bonuses, the defensive bonus being limited to 50%.
The defensive bonus of the sectors has become useless.
 

DeletedUser9062

Guest
A guild at level 60 and above can have at least 4 rings with 50% boost, enemy can pass at once the first 3 rings... so why to waste FP to boost the defence?when you can boost your alkatraz?..i think they must make new levels.. or maybe a guild Gb,that gives boosts in all guild mebers.and not try to waste our time on this cultural seltements.....
 

DeletedUser7454

Guest
LOL my traz is level 88 so I do not see your point. And what you say it is true if you expect only one enemy -- but not when you have multiple plus ghosts

I disagree that the defensive bonus is useless -- yes people have high attack bonuses but go and fight CE and you will see the huge difference between a fully tanked NPC and a sector with defensive bonus.
 

DeletedUser9112

Guest
I would see as a bonus. The ability to take a guild out of the TA. This guild could not come back for a week. It would unlock the GcG in TA. There would be more ghost fighting. Guilds would be afraid to offer sector with their Champion
 
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DeletedUser8127

Guest
open your eyes and read the headline of the forum folder ...
why are you discussing GvG here - the thread is for the VZ .... Nobody is interested in the stupid GvG - everyone here is looking forward to news about the Virtual Future Part 3 and you're spamming the thread to your irrelevant GvG crap .....
 

DeletedUser9778

Guest
off: Indeed, I was just going to say the same, stop this already, no one cares about GvG. It's dead, just some of you, who have nothing to do and still play it. Stop, it's useless. It's not even interesting. Stop, we are here just for spoilers, if you have any, just post them.

Also, it's been a while since we had something about the 3rd part, in the video with Vikings it seemed much closer, maybe after the carnival event


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