Rejected Instant FPs recovery

[Dessire]

Reason

You spend FPs in a guild member's GBuilding - that players leaves the game before close the level. you have lost your FPS.

You spend FPs in a friend's GBuilding - that players leaves the game before close the level. you have lost your FPS.

You Spend Fps in a neighbor GBuilding - that players leave the game before close the level. you have lost your FPS.

You do the 3 things above - Those players delete their accounts. you have lost your FPS.

You want to snipe and ruin a player who made bad things to you - that toxic player stop spending his/her FPs in his/her GBuilding. You have lost your FPs because that player is not going to keep leveling up his/her GBuilding again until you put 1.9

You do all the things above but those players delete their GBuildings. You have lost your FPs.

Details

You have spent FPs in a GBuilding (not yours obviously). The amount of FPS is not enough to secure any position. You do not receive anything yet.

You spend more FPs and now you have enough FPs there to earn the 3rd place but not the 2nd place. the 2nd place is still available. You do not receive anything yet.

You spend more FPs and now you can earn the 2nd place but not the first place. the first place is still available. You do not receive anything.

Another player spend enough FPs to secure the first place. That player receives instantly the rewards of the first place + arc bonus. You receive instantly the rewards of the 2nd place + arc bonus.

The idea is have the rewards (specially the FPs) of a certain position at the moment of have secured the best position you can get in a GBuilding.

If the best position you can get is 1, you can instalty earn the reward of the 5th place at the moment when another player secures the 4th position. or you can get the rewards of the 2nd place if the first place is secured by another placer, or you can instantly get the reward of the first place if you secure the position. so if a GBuilding ask for 3000 FPs and you spend 1500 FPs, you instantly get the FPs of the rewards + bonus arc.

With this, we do not must worry about get our FPs lost due the examples I gave above and the best part is that you do not must to wait anymore to have the levels of GBuildins closed in order to have your reward.

Balance

It just require a change in how the reward system in GBuildings works

Abuse Prevention

Any player can enter in a guild and spend FPs whenever he/she wants, or do that with neighbors or friends. it's not like a new way of abuse will appear due to this idea so I do not think that there could be problems

Summary

At the moment of secure a position and not be able to earn any better position because the amount of FPs the player can spend is not enough to earn a better place, the player get the rewards of the secured place.

Have you looked to see if this has already been suggested?

Yes. I did it.

Do you have problems with players who have months without closing the level of their GBuildings? Do you have your FPs stucked in those GBuildings? This idea could finally fix that problem!

 

[Pericles the Lion]

Gotta say no to this. Part of the FP investment process is an understanding that the investor has to wait for the GB to level before getting a return on their investment (if they secure a P1-P5 spot). Anyone investing in another player's GB accepts this when they make the investment. Some GBs level fast, others level more slowly, some never level. If a player cannot handle the wait, or the loss, then they should stick to self-levelling and/or FP swaps and stay away from 1.9s and sniping. Just my opinion.

 

[Dessire]

Gotta say no to this. Part of the FP investment process is an understanding that the investor has to wait for the GB to level before getting a return on their investment (if they secure a P1-P5 spot). Anyone investing in another player's GB accepts this when they make the investment. Some GBs level fast, others level more slowly, some never level. If a player cannot handle the wait, or the loss, then they should stick to self-levelling and/or FP swaps and stay away from 1.9s and sniping. Just my opinion.

I think you need to lose some thousands of FPs in order to start thinking in a more empathic way.

 

[Goldra]

I have read ideas like this a lot of times, and all end with a NO.
What you asking for is something that makes the game easier, making the use of fp a non risk feature. I think this could be in DNSL. Lets see what people say.

 

[Dessire]

I have read ideas like this a lot of times, and all end with a NO.
What you asking for is something that makes the game easier, making the use of fp a non risk feature. I think this could be in DNSL. Lets see what people say.

easier? it's only an improvement of a system with fails, fails which allow bad players abuse you and any player they hate.

 

[Emberguard]

I prefer for it to have a risk involvement

I think you need to lose some thousands of FPs in order to start thinking in a more empathic way.

Already have

If the best position you can get is 1, you can instalty earn the reward of the 5th place at the moment when another player secures the 4th position. or you can get the rewards of the 2nd place if the first place is secured by another placer, or you can instantly get the reward of the first place if you secure the position. so if a GBuilding ask for 3000 FPs and you spend 1500 FPs, you instantly get the FPs of the rewards + bonus arc.

....so we get a reward without earning it because it hasn't levelled up yet? What could possibly go wrong with the coding for that one.....

This is likely going to cause way too many issues. If you've already partially received the reward earlier on, then you're not entitled to anything more than your final position would actually get upon levelling. So you'd have to deduct 5th and 4th and 3rd from the 2nd place reward in order to pay out 2nd when levelling because you already received those amounts. It'd just end up convoluted and have people going "where's my FPs?"

Also if the GB is then deleted without levelling you have to remove the FPs from inventory retroactively from all contributors sitting on a position. You haven't earned those FPs.

 

[CrashBoom]

no risk no fun

and btw:
the vote is invalid

 

[-Alin-]

And You will cry again on how smart and good is Your Idea, despite the fact almost everyone will vote with "NO" Your Idea?
I have 30k locked in disconnected cities, FOREVER, where people are inactive I search for apropriate friends to that player account, I let them have the other spots for 1.9, or 1.8 to make profit if they want and I will close myself that level with a loss of 500-1000 fps, but at least I get back 1-2k.

And why Your proposal sounds like an AD for a soap, drycooker or a miracle product shown on TV? Lol ...

 

[Pericles the Lion]

I think you need to lose some thousands of FPs in order to start thinking in a more empathic way.

I think that you should choose your investments more wisely. I have over 150K FPs invested now. Will I lose some, sure. However, my wins vastly outweigh my losses and that is what matters.

 

[Nickneck the Lion]

When I support someone in the GB my FP are gone, so they are no longer mine. If I get something back with it because I'm on P1-P5, that's nice. It's always a risk, and I should only take it if I can do without the FP.

 

[Born to be a Banana]

FoE's already a very easy game. So why make it even easier ?
FP investment is like real-life investment, you got a whole lot of risks involved, and I kinda like this idea.

Sometimes you make benefits, sometimes you lose FPs. I've spent thousands of FPs I'll never see again because people deleted their GBs "to annoy me" (lol), or because they stopped leveling them. And you know what ? I knew the risks when sniping, or that they were not very active when I invested. So am I allowed to complain about that ? Absolutely not.

Big no from me.

 

[ArklurBeta]

Maybe a good idea would be to give back the FPs when people delete their GBs, that's...something I would vote yes, but not this, my vote is a No.

 

[The Lady Redneck]

A definite NO.

When you donate FPs to another persons GB. For whatever reason. Those FPs are no longer yours. You have chosen of your own free will to give them away. So you have no right to expect any sort of return. If you do get one that is great. but it is not yours by right. You have decided to gamble with your FPs. If you put a bet on a horse race you are not guaranteed to win. If you put money in a slot machine, you are not guaranteed a jackpot pay out, or any pay out. Try going to one of the Casinos in Vegas. Lose some money and go try your arguement on the Casino Bosses and see how much you get back.

P.S. Am getting a tad fed up of this same old same old. this has been hashed out umpteen times before.

 

[CrashBoom]

but if the horse race isn't finished then you get your money back

 

[vakini]

the snipers/Arch +100lvl-owners would love that, they get their FP ´s returned instantly so they can use them again on sniping another player, they only need a couple of thosuind FP´s in stock and then they can earn several thousinds of FP´s a day sniping

 

[planetofthehumans2]

I would also vote to return the FP if a player deletes their city, but not instant reward.

 

[CrashBoom]

vote is over
so time to move it to archive

 

[Markus Stormrider]

my preferred option "HELL NO!" wasn't added, so i didn't vote

 

[dpghost]

what do we need to do to make this dissapear?

 

[trayk]

Investment…risk vs Reward. As the old saying goes… “you pays your money, you takes your chances” there is NO guarantee. No, just flipping no to this.