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Feedback Fellowship Event 2024
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CrashBoom
Legend
I can't speak 100% on these yet as I skipped them on beta and they're not on live yet (just finished the first rival on one world, working on it on others for fall), but nothing I've seen of them *requires* diamonds. They may require a lot of spoons (fall) or wasting event currency (this one), but you can make choices to do those things without diamonds - i.e. in fall saving the questline that rewards many spoons for when rivals are running. in this one, not grinding for extra grand prizes or opening chests for escutcheons.
I don't see a particular problem that rivals may warp the event strategy for those who decide to care about them - so long as completing rivals is not required for "normal" event play.
Fury the Avenger
Viceroy
For the first rival in fall event, that was possible without diamonds.
The second it wasn't, in beta, unless you got lucky. And this include using half the quest unlocked that give wooden spoon (8 from quests and all those available as grand prizes). The issue (on beta) was the too high count on the 6* chest task.
Reminder: 6* has changed from 15 tiles to 20 in this event. That is over 20% of the entire borad. And if you remove that many tile for each chest the count becomes really important. If it's too high you are forced to use multiple spoon and the chance of getting a board where the colour you were working on isn't present increase to almost certain.
In this rival on beta, the issue are the negotiation without loosing. You can use the tavern and GE to have 4 attempt, but if you guess wrong, you have to use a 10 diamonds to avoid breaking the streak. It's not a lot of diamonds, but you have to pay or break the streak. Because in most era you have only GE to do the negotiaiton in you cannot try again without limit and the higher you get the more chance you have of needing diamonds (GbG is not on, and the chance there is even worst).
We will probably get the diamond back from GE4.
The first one had the negotiaiton as an option.
Previous Rival had GE negotiation. We had the option to fail (no diamond) and buy more attempts (more medals). Now it's diamond or fail.
Ironrooster
Baronet
Some recurring quests have a negotiation option
I've seen that a little with the 6* in the first rival, but it is still just spoons. Particularly using your golden spoons for those tasks seems like a good answer - power through a bunch of boards. What's the 6* count needed in the 2nd rival?
Didn't this one also have "or" for fights in each of those tasks? I agree negotiating without losing will sometimes cost a *little* diamonds
Fury the Avenger
Viceroy
The second on beta had 5 chest with 6* in quest 28 AND 6 chest with 6* in quest 30. BUT the version we got on live is completely different in the first one, so I have no idea what they kept and what they didn't.
For the Rival currently in beta, there is no OR option. you HAVE to do negotiation without loosing: 6 (Q7) + 8 (Q15) + 10 (Q23) + 12 (Q31).
But all those quest do have an AND condition, so you also have to do some tasks in the city.
Just to make it more interesting. /s
Well that's not *totally* outlandish - can keep that to GE with the 4-turn buff and *probably* not cost diamonds (though the backup would best be "fine i'll pay the 10 diamonds, i'm not starting over")
CDmark
Baronet
I see it as a player decision. I had the gems to do Rivals but I didn't like the nego/no lose/no autocomplete quests at all, you could get stuck and not finish. Also, the recruit previous era units, I don't have a Traz and I am not going to store/build/collect (collect a few times, it was 5 and 10 units). So for me, it was more of what I had to do, uproot my city for an ally and some buildings. Now, I just had a chest collection, ascended royal carriage, knights pavilion selection kit (units for me), and the main prize, estate.
so there is no right or wrong answer but one thing is for sure, this round of rivals, if you lost a last nego a few times in GE, you can run out, not complete and have 800/1000 fragments.
hopefully you did well.
CDmark
Baronet
I think that is called, extortion...lol
CDmark
Baronet
not in HMA
Well there is that for sure. In the current state of allies, I would not consider them enough of a reason to do a rival. And in the current state of the building, I would not consider it worth building, because of allies.
The line for rivals has been "it can be as annoying as the developers like, but if you expect people to do it, the rewards better be worth it".
einzauberengel
Marquis
Sorry folks to bother you, but I just want to let know Inno that since I stumbled over the 2nd 4 hrs time skip I completely lost faith in even playing the event! That task was an (my) absolute show stopper for me; especially emotionally!!!! From that point on the Rival I completely lost passion even showing up in my city. If you wanna have folks investing real money, dont block emotions!
Note to the CEO and CFO and shareholders of Inno.... Blocked emotions wouldnt lead to buying dias!!! not here and never ever in live servers
Note to the CEO and CFO and shareholders of Inno.... Blocked emotions wouldnt lead to buying dias!!! not here and never ever in live servers
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MATR
Squire
How does one do negotiations outside of GE? I finished all of GE and rival quest wants 10 negos completed. How can I do this?
Fury the Avenger
Viceroy
GbG is it was open. It is not open.
Continental Map, if you are in space age map
Recurring quest, for same late ages.
Otherwise you are out of luck as support wrote.
You could contact support and see if you get a different response.
MATR
Squire
thanks I was afraid that would be the answer. I'm in Progressive era, there are no negos in recurring quests. Fighting on the SAAB map, not really feasible to find Saab goods for nego on the map from PE plus I never spend advance era goods for map nego - that is a horrible idea. Guess I'm just out of luck -
Last time for the rival for me. Was a serious bit of time to get to this spot as well as diamond investment. Bought diamonds for the last time on Beta. Thinking I'm done on beta and going to put city into hibernation. The game takes far too much time to play on two worlds - main and beta. Has been close to full time for the past weeks with 2 events, QI, settlements in both cities, GE and GBG. Haven't even had time to figure out "allies". Tired of inno's poor explanations and don't feel like one should have to do research in the forum to figure out how to play. Game is now boring, repetitive and not really challenging. Far too much nonsense complexity. Inno fails to recognize the value of chat amongst players and the joy it brings people to be able to talk. Game changes have pretty much eliminated this from the game.
ETOILE84
Farmer
J'ai le même problème, j'ai déposé un ticket de support hier pour signaler le bug, ils m'ont dit que c'était moi qui étais allé trop vite dans l'expédition de guilde.
Lorsque Rival démarre, on n'est pas informé de l'avancement des quêtes, on me demandait des combats et des négociations, je les faisais sur le seul endroit où je pouvais les faire, l'expédition de guilde. Ils n'ont pas pris en compte le fait que le champ de bataille n'était pas ouvert aux quêtes de combat, et ont préféré pénaliser les joueurs plutôt que d'admettre leur faute.
MATR
Squire
Guild mate tried map - she claims it didn't give any credits towards rival. She also wrote support who told her she did GE too fast and that if she had done GE only for rival there would be enough engagements to complete rival. >>> Hogwash is my response. I'm not stupid enough to continue this nonsense. It is bad enough that all the percentages and game play is rigged but to add a trick for rival is beyond belief. It is not the kind of game I want to play. I can get this kind of abuse from my local casino and they give me free drinks. I get nothing here. There is no sense of accomplishment. No challenge. What's extra bizarre is the issue of no more GE engagements can't be fixed with diamonds - the only thing inno cares about. Double stupidity.
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