shad2389
Viceroy
yea exactly what i'v been thinking by time i'll have what it takes to build a golden TF it will be out-datedand when you have a full kit then you already can replace it with a better QI buildings![]()
yea exactly what i'v been thinking by time i'll have what it takes to build a golden TF it will be out-datedand when you have a full kit then you already can replace it with a better QI buildings![]()
Well then that makes new-GE very simple.FT is very simple:
Trial 3 and all above give 50 Forgotten Temple Fragments
(1&2 = 0)
there is no increase (according to Juber on Discord)
Some of the players might not have done trial 3 last week. And thus it's not 5*x. but n*x+(5-n)*y.I am guessing that is each player? I figured with 5 mates, it has to be, nothing ends in 0 or 5.
OK, here are the prizes on platforms of Trial 5 (summary):
Trial 5 all 5 levels, still 50 forgotten temples and 90 diamonds, if someone is interested in the prizes, can track the record I did.
I still do not understand what are those fragments of FT shown below each trial, since we still get 50 of them as before.
If you know how many platform they completed last week, then you can estimate n.Some of the players might not have done trial 3 last week. And thus it's not 5*x. but n*x+(5-n)*y.
Oh the grind is real. Beating trial 5 for 5 months to have a single silver terrace farm. A decent but not outstanding building.
The diamonds and FT make it worth it to keep doing GE though.
The big question is what the rewards are gonna be next week. Few on beta can beat 9,150%. A higher age unit player with turts can do it.
So a friend of mine told me trial1 has only 15 diamonds as a reward in the whole GE ! Trial 2 has 30 diamonds and trial3 45 diamonds... If someone is playing higher trial let us know how many diamonds they give (probably 60, 75, 90?). And this reward is in just one fight with 100% chance, so those diamonds are solid every time , though previous GE version had 81 diamonds overall for anyone ( 3 times 90 diamonds with 30% chance = 81 diamonds on the long run). So we had a diamond haircut again...
Thanks. That's what I thought. Unless INNO changes course on the enemy boosts, I'll stop doing GE in my secondary worlds and will only do trial 3 on my main. As others have said, beyond trial 3 the view isn't worth the climb.@Pericles the Lion - exactly all of our esteemed conclusions.
1) Trial 3 difficulty (in a sliding difficulty scale) is roughly the same IN SASH for OLD and NEW GE. No one really has quantifiable accuracy, but there is unanimity that it's unjustifiably harder each era down to the Iron Age, where it's very difficult, you will take substantial losses, need substantial on-demand boosting flasks, and NOT even close to OLD GE.
2) You can't obtain any FT frags in TRIAL 1 or 2. FT frags are available only in Trial 3, and higher.
Today I received 90 diamonds from trial 5, GE4. So for me there is no diamond nerf. However I understand that if you're below space ages or do not have a very strong city this is certainly a diamond nerf, absolutely.Sure that diamonds make it worth? According to a guild mate :
I got that hint ever since GE5 was introduced.Otherwise Inno might as well announce "We don't want you to negotiate."
What are your GE red/blue boosts? I'm trying to gauge what is necessary to fight level 5. Thx.Today I received 90 diamonds from trial 5, GE4. So for me there is no diamond nerf. However I understand that if you're below space ages or do not have a very strong city this is certainly a diamond nerf, absolutely.
I don't think diamonds were nerfed BUT we as players knew the average amount in old GE was 81D. There was a reduction from the original GE, I think around half (this is a guess, maybe someone knows). My MAIN problem is this hidden "POOL" of rewards. Why can't we know this "POOL" and its % chances for the rewards? I don't know about you but when something is hidden I think there is something they don't want us to know. One could speculate GE diamonds took another little haircut. Now, we see we still get them so if there was a haircut, we can at least know and decide how we want to play.Today I received 90 diamonds from trial 5, GE4. So for me there is no diamond nerf. However I understand that if you're below space ages or do not have a very strong city this is certainly a diamond nerf, absolutely.
But those who completed Trial 3 last week only got 45 diamonds, and Trial 3 was supposed to be equivalent of old GE5, according to Inno.I don't think diamonds were nerfed BUT we as players knew the average amount in old GE was 81D.
Iron AGE - TRIAL 3 - Diff 1 | Iron AGE - TRIAL 3 - Diff 2 | Iron AGE - TRIAL 3 - Diff 3 | Iron AGE - TRIAL 3 - Diff 4 | Iron AGE - TRIAL 3 - Diff 5 |
1 1x ranged unit 2 1x ranged unit 3 Choice of 15 IA goods 4 50 frags GE 1 kit 5 a light unit 6 4400 coins 7 5 FP 8 10 Frags FOY shrink kit 9 10 IA goods 10 6000 coins 11 6000 coins 12 10 Fragments FOY 13 6000 Supplies 14 4000 Supplies 15 2 Free Encounter attempts 16 10 Frags of GE 4 kit | 17 2x ranged units 18 4400 coins 19 4400 supplies 20 50 frags GE 2 kit 21 3 Free encounter attempts 22 2x heavy units 23 4400 coins 24 10 frags FOY shrink kit 25 15 FP 26 6000 supplies 27 6000 coins 28 10 Fragments FOY 29 10 FP 30 6000 coins 31 30 Goods 32 15 frags GE 4 kit | 33 3x Fast units 34 15 FP 35 3 Blueprints 36 50 frags GE 3 kit 37 25 Previous age goods 38 2x Temple of Relics BP 39 3x heavy units 40 15 frags FOY shrink kit 41 3x light units 42 Temple of Relics BP 43 4 free encounter attempts 44 15 FOY fragments 45 3 blueprints 46 15 FP 47 3x ranged units 48 25 frags GE 4 kit | 49 35 previous age goods 50 20 FP 51 4x Fast units 52 50 frags GE 1 kit 53 10 fragments 1 up kit 54 4x light units 55 50 frags GE 2 kit 56 15 frag FOY shrink kit 57 30 previous age goods 58 5 frags store building 59 50 frags GE 3 kit 60 15 Frags FOY 61 30 FP 62 25 FP 63 50 frags GE 4 kit 64 45 diamonds | 65 10 frags G+ Ritual Flame 66 5 frags Divine sky watch 67 5 frags Serpent Selection kit 68 5 Frags FT 69 5 frags Serpent Chain Sel kit 70 15 frags G+ Ritual Flame 71 5 frags Serpent Statue Sel kit 72 5 Frags FT 73 5 frags Serpent Chain Sel kit 74 10 frags Divine sky watch 75 15 frags Serpent Statue Sel kit 76 15 Frags FT 77 15 frags Serpent chain Sel kit 78 15 frags Divine sky watch 79 25 frags Serpent Statue Sel kit 80 25 Frags FT |
agree this is why I would like to see the "POOL".But those who completed Trial 3 last week only got 45 diamonds, and Trial 3 was supposed to be equivalent of old GE5, according to Inno.
Curious how many diamonds Trial 3 will provide this week...
Presumably Indu players with turturrets + high lvl Virgo/Kraken gonna take the lead. Shortly followed by VF players with the same GB's but with SAM units and more space (from expansions of the TT and cmap) to their disposal (I've maxed out expansions from the cmap with just ninjas, yes including SASH). Presumably ages that greatly benefit from hover tanks might find also them getting further than most other ages.In SASH there definitely is enough space - and i think i've heard people quote their boosts as near that already in GBG - if that's what you want your focus to be.
But it seems likely that if you want to be a GE-specialist you're going to be looking for special advantages that allow you to beat 11000% boost when you have say 6000% - because it's going to keep going higher than that
The industrial with turturrets crowd will be the easiest answer. They were already beating 12000%; and the new 24000% GBG cap is in reach though a fair bit of work.
VF with SAM Sentinels from Aviary or Eco Sanctum is another one that'll be interesting to see just how far above them they can handle. Aviaries from QI could be awfully appealing for a lot of ages. Both high GE boost and next era units to play with.
But also just in general some eras might be able to milk a high AO + Cosmic Catalyst to fight things well above their boost well enough to win once in each encounter if it goes right.
You also could maybe break out Virgo Project and Kraken which up to now has been a waste because anywhere challenging enough to use it it doesn't work or there's too many fights. But they do work in GE, and there's a limited number of fights to win. Though at ~3 procs per day, Virgo Project might have to be reserved for only the toughest fights if you're going to use it. Kraken at 25 charges approaching 100% proc rate? That you could count on for wave 1 of every GE encounter potentially.
INNO doesn't really need to publish the pool as long as enough players share info about what they collect, and where, we will soon know what comprises the reward pools.agree this is why I would like to see the "POOL".