DeletedUser
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Hi looking at the features of the new unit and comparing for example with a tank of the modern era does not seem very useful ... what do you think?
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DeletedUser4770
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Can you upload a screenshot with the features of the: Shrine of Knowledge and Cmapions Retreat, in The Modern Era?
Thanks.
DeletedUser4770
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DeletedUser
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I just tried the Champion out 
Well, I have mixed feelings...
- First of all, I expected the ME Champion to be some kind of quickly running Squad Leader/General with military clothing and a com-radio screaming orders to the rest of the units. Atleast that's how he looks like on the picture. Instead he drives some kind of luxury car, almost looks like he's imported directly from hollywood...
- He's a champion, not a marture or terrorist, right? So why should he die in order for the team to get a boost? Our units should get boosted while he's fighting together with them and give them morale and motivation.
- The Rogues are still way better, and my tanks have about the same stats. If I'm going to build this unit then it's needs a boost, without doubt.
So what is positive? Well:
The Champion is a great and interesting concept, but currently it's setup is totally wrong. Make the Champion boost with +20% attack/defense while he's alive, and when he dies, our units should get a penalty of -20% attack/defense.
Well, I have mixed feelings...- First of all, I expected the ME Champion to be some kind of quickly running Squad Leader/General with military clothing and a com-radio screaming orders to the rest of the units. Atleast that's how he looks like on the picture. Instead he drives some kind of luxury car, almost looks like he's imported directly from hollywood...
- He's a champion, not a marture or terrorist, right? So why should he die in order for the team to get a boost? Our units should get boosted while he's fighting together with them and give them morale and motivation.
- The Rogues are still way better, and my tanks have about the same stats. If I'm going to build this unit then it's needs a boost, without doubt.
So what is positive? Well:
The Champion is a great and interesting concept, but currently it's setup is totally wrong. Make the Champion boost with +20% attack/defense while he's alive, and when he dies, our units should get a penalty of -20% attack/defense.
DeletedUser2752
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You know who is the champion from this Champion? The attacker who get's 6240 points per (ME) unit. How did I find this out?
Anyways, what's the maximum score now for one battle? 49920 points
I would maybe understand these amount of points if they had last stand, but Call of Duty is only applicable once, so the attack/defense of these guys will not be that scary against battle tanks.
EDIT: Neighbor just defeated my 1 Champion + 7 rogues set up and got 41600 points from it (lost a bazooka, got his mech infantry damaged, and left one rogue alone though)
Well, first I noticed that when my Champion got damaged by 2, I lost 520 points from it. Since each HP = 1/20 of the (100% happiness) of a unit: (520/2)*20*1.2 = 6240. I had to make sure that this was the right formula, so I damaged one of my paratroopers by 5HP, and I lost 740 points (so 740/5 * 20 * 1.2 * (8 paratroopers) = 29952, or the maximum points we can get so far from a battle). Then I went back and damaged another champion again just to make sure I wasn't dreaming:
4 bars of damage = 1040 loss of points = 1040/4 * 20 * 1.2 = 6240. I'm not dreaming unfortunately
4 bars of damage = 1040 loss of points = 1040/4 * 20 * 1.2 = 6240. I'm not dreaming unfortunately
I would maybe understand these amount of points if they had last stand, but Call of Duty is only applicable once, so the attack/defense of these guys will not be that scary against battle tanks.
EDIT: Neighbor just defeated my 1 Champion + 7 rogues set up and got 41600 points from it (lost a bazooka, got his mech infantry damaged, and left one rogue alone though)
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DeletedUser4963
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You know who is the champion from this Champion? The attacker who get's 6240 points per (ME) unit. How did I find this out?Anyways, what's the maximum score now for one battle? 49920 pointsWell, first I noticed that when my Champion got damaged by 2, I lost 520 points from it. Since each HP = 1/20 of the (100% happiness) of a unit: (520/2)*20*1.2 = 6240. I had to make sure that this was the right formula, so I damaged one of my paratroopers by 5HP, and I lost 740 points (so 740/5 * 20 * 1.2 * (8 paratroopers) = 29952, or the maximum points we can get so far from a battle). Then I went back and damaged another champion again just to make sure I wasn't dreaming:
4 bars of damage = 1040 loss of points = 1040/4 * 20 * 1.2 = 6240. I'm not dreaming unfortunately
I would maybe understand these amount of points if they had last stand, but Call of Duty is only applicable once, so the attack/defense of these guys will not be that scary against battle tanks.
EDIT: Neighbor just defeated my 1 Champion + 7 rogues set up and got 41600 points from it (lost a bazooka, got his mech infantry damaged, and left one rogue alone though)
gotta always put more than 1 reg unit in def ive found out. they will target that 1 unit and if your rouges cant get to them fast enough rouges go poof when reg unit dies. i always put 1 heavy and then the unit im trying to get my rouges to turn into. this way theres a way better chance of rouges turning into another unit before reg unit dies.
i do agree though champ should be better
i now have 5 champs 4 from retreats 1 unattached
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DeletedUser2752
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I just put that defense for him to tell me the score he can get for it I'm a nice guy, so I try to help my neighbors out (who don't plunder) as much as I can
If someone does plunder me, there going to be facing a random defense of either 6 bazookas and 2 rogues, or 6 battle tanks and 2 rogues
I'm a nice guy, so I try to help my neighbors out (who don't plunder) as much as I can If someone does plunder me, there going to be facing a random defense of either 6 bazookas and 2 rogues, or 6 battle tanks and 2 rogues
DeletedUser4963
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that's very nice of you : ) hope no one plunders because your giving very high pvp pointsI just put that defense for him to tell me the score he can get for it
If someone does plunder me, there going to be facing a random defense of either 6 bazookas and 2 rogues, or 6 battle tanks and 2 rogues
DeletedUser
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so the champion is useless for attackingYou know who is the champion from this Champion? The attacker who get's 6240 points per (ME) unit. How did I find this out?Anyways, what's the maximum score now for one battle? 49920 pointsWell, first I noticed that when my Champion got damaged by 2, I lost 520 points from it. Since each HP = 1/20 of the (100% happiness) of a unit: (520/2)*20*1.2 = 6240. I had to make sure that this was the right formula, so I damaged one of my paratroopers by 5HP, and I lost 740 points (so 740/5 * 20 * 1.2 * (8 paratroopers) = 29952, or the maximum points we can get so far from a battle). Then I went back and damaged another champion again just to make sure I wasn't dreaming:
4 bars of damage = 1040 loss of points = 1040/4 * 20 * 1.2 = 6240. I'm not dreaming unfortunately
I would maybe understand these amount of points if they had last stand, but Call of Duty is only applicable once, so the attack/defense of these guys will not be that scary against battle tanks.
EDIT: Neighbor just defeated my 1 Champion + 7 rogues set up and got 41600 points from it (lost a bazooka, got his mech infantry damaged, and left one rogue alone though)
you get the Call of Duty bonus only if he dies:
but then you will get less battle points
DeletedUser2752
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Actually, I'm not very sure either if the other units have gotten any bonus from a dead Champion. You should be able to tell how much of a bonus it is by hovering over the Champion, and checking Call of Duty.
DeletedUser1264
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Can you ask how we're supposed to know whether or not the bonus is actually being applied?