1 giant in a single day. 10 days to get 10giant units using 80similar normal units. Small limitation have suggested already. Sorry all the limitations and complete suggestions missed to add in the first thread since it will be a lengthy one. And myself strongly having negative confidence to get support for this idea when initially planned to suggest here. But still like this idea from my side.
+ Surrenders don't counthow about: an unit that survives 5000 battles automatically becomes a Giant
that would be an annoying grind
"Giant unit privilege" is the reference here why the plundering action got rejected. Once it got rejected means, attacking user should be understood like, opponent does not having matching defending army unit era of our attacking giant army unit era. Like, opponent players has lower level era from our giant unit era. Popup message can be modified suitably to get my context. Still not getting five/six words matching sentence in my mind for alert the users for plunder action rejected.
how does that tell the player what would allow them to be successful if you're not explaining what the criteria for "Giant unit privilege" is? You've already said suggesting to remove a single age from the pool of plunderable ages makes it unable to be understood
Users cannot get exact answer by telling what giant era units to add. Since it is plundering approach, opponent army seen at battle field only. That's the trouble. Hence, "Giants units privilege mismatched" will be like generic alert to the attacking user, to do some diffrent attempts of changing giant units in their attacking army to get plunder action possible by identifying which giant army unit era gets matched. If not ready to try with giant units, attacking user can do the plunder with normal units like how it is now. Here, defending army units has giants and attacking user has normal units means, problem to the attacking user only.
Then there's no point to having a age limit on Giants at all if you're not even going to tell them any block on attacking is due to a age reason
If no age limit, then having giant unit is like cheating approach for plundering easily. Also popup describing the opponents army units comparison with our giant unit era, then its like an abusing way to know before entering battle field and punish the opponent defending army. Couldn't find a best way to instruct the attacking user about why plundering rejected. If not possible anyway, only two options left.
Simple, make it age of User not age of Defending Army. You don't have to give info on enemy tactics to tell the player how something works.
Thanks for the help. My mind able to pick few adjustment with that message like,
I've corrected it as I realised I had written it in reverse of what we're aiming for xD
Oh my god. If you didn't tell, myself not found only. That much strong in English.
Only unbalancing feel it has because of getting 10x power. Thought initally to introduce new unit called "Battle Queen" like in chess where queen has more power. Once got free time, will give my idea for "battle queen" (since it is also falls under DNSL). Having this in mind, existing units getting promotion feels like common approach for every user in the game, hence suggested it. Definitely myself agree, giant unit is having too much of power in attack and defense, because combining 10 units together it needs to be 10x.
It's ways cheaper than building up GBs and grinding for event buildings. Those 10 units are nothing compared
Yes but also for players. In example case player's Giants would be: 900% (giants buff) + 600% =1.500% bonus. So,
That's an hilarisch thing. They just don't build the 4th siege camp and instead build 1 tower next to their 3 siege camps
Exactly just confusing. So, I can strike with with my Giants and putting down my Giant hovers and nothing
Lovely balance as Giant plasma doesn't like to attack me and normal plasma hardlyLMAO, basically you're saying just buffing you're units with cheap 900% is strategy. It's just being forced
Exactly, confusing thus pretty flawed.
So, it's becoming even an larger mess and more confusing by overruling secret identity. If I understand it
That would be vastly more interesting, if it had for example an special skill that grants that
900% mentioned many times.It's ways cheaper than building up GBs and grinding for event buildings. Those 10 units are nothing compared
to what Alcatraz can produce. I guess you heavily underestimate that GB and player's units production capability.
Most have Alcatraz pretty high and easily produce 20-80 units a day. In that regards 10 units are cheap. Compare
the costs 10 of units against thousands of fps and years of collecting event buildings to raise the bonuses to
900%.
This is just an easy way to get there, to avoid that grind. Just a question, are units more valuable for you or
thousands of fps and many event buildings collected over many events for 900% bonus?
Yes but also for players. In example case player's Giants would be: 900% (giants buff) + 600% =1.500% bonus. So,
just an easy way for the 900% additional buff. Nothing more than that jut for the costs of only 10 units/giant.
That's an hilarisch thing. They just don't build the 4th siege camp and instead build 1 tower next to their 3 siege camps
and already don't have to deal with it as it doesn't tricker you're giants. Alternatively they just adjust their bots and
scripts and everything continues like normal. More likely they just deploy their own giants buffed with their normal
bonuses and they blasting through the giants.
Nothing changes really just for players how don't have the patience and will to bringing in the effort to grind and work
for their 900% buff in game have no an easy, cheap and fast way to reaching it. Though with complex limitations until
reaching future and just blasting through everything from Oceanic.
Exactly just confusing. So, I can strike with with my Giants and putting down my Giant hovers and nothing
can get through that.
does bother my Giant hovers.xd. Cheap way to victory and 900% bonus.
LMAO, basically you're saying just buffing you're units with cheap 900% is strategy. It's just being forced
to paying 80 units per army to fight. As I said in regards of the concept of promotion, if it would've been
real promotion with unlocking an additional new skill which allows for new strategies and tactics, rather
than just buff the units with 900% or more, it would've been more interesting.
It can be brought left, right, up, down, or any other way fact still remains it's an easy 900% buff that
can be reached quickly for the costs of 10 units/giant. If it would've brought new skills rather than just
900% buff that already exist... it's just another unwanted grind.
Exactly, confusing thus pretty flawed.
So, it's becoming even an larger mess and more confusing by overruling secret identity. If I understand it
correctly. Giant + rouges = rouges are instantly killed when attacked. Giant + Giant rouges = Giant rouges
dying all when the original giant dies?
That would be vastly more interesting, if it had for example an special skill that grants that
buff. I dunno what the tricker could be but perhaps something similar to chess? In an larger
scale battle or something?
It disturbed you lot by thinking 10x power unit in the game. Is this idea affecting your game play very much. Units and forge points both are not valuable for me. Time is the valuable factor me. Came to play the game, can store 1M forge points, 1M units and 1m diamonds 1G supplies etc etc. Battles with same concept every time. Just bringing a diffrent complexity to the game battles with Giant unit. That's all.It's ways cheaper than building up GBs and grinding for event buildings. Those 10 units are nothing compared
to what Alcatraz can produce. I guess you heavily underestimate that GB and player's units production capability.
Most have Alcatraz pretty high and easily produce 20-80 units a day. In that regards 10 units are cheap. Compare
the costs 10 of units against thousands of fps and years of collecting event buildings to raise the bonuses to
900%.
This is just an easy way to get there, to avoid that grind. Just a question, are units more valuable for you or
thousands of fps and many event buildings collected over many events for 900% bonus?
Yes but also for players. In example case player's Giants would be: 900% (giants buff) + 600% =1.500% bonus. So,
just an easy way for the 900% additional buff. Nothing more than that jut for the costs of only 10 units/giant.
That's an hilarisch thing. They just don't build the 4th siege camp and instead build 1 tower next to their 3 siege camps
and already don't have to deal with it as it doesn't tricker you're giants. Alternatively they just adjust their bots and
scripts and everything continues like normal. More likely they just deploy their own giants buffed with their normal
bonuses and they blasting through the giants.
Nothing changes really just for players how don't have the patience and will to bringing in the effort to grind and work
for their 900% buff in game have no an easy, cheap and fast way to reaching it. Though with complex limitations until
reaching future and just blasting through everything from Oceanic.
Exactly just confusing. So, I can strike with with my Giants and putting down my Giant hovers and nothing
can get through that.
does bother my Giant hovers.xd. Cheap way to victory and 900% bonus.
LMAO, basically you're saying just buffing you're units with cheap 900% is strategy. It's just being forced
to paying 80 units per army to fight. As I said in regards of the concept of promotion, if it would've been
real promotion with unlocking an additional new skill which allows for new strategies and tactics, rather
than just buff the units with 900% or more, it would've been more interesting.
It can be brought left, right, up, down, or any other way fact still remains it's an easy 900% buff that
can be reached quickly for the costs of 10 units/giant. If it would've brought new skills rather than just
900% buff that already exist... it's just another unwanted grind.
Exactly, confusing thus pretty flawed.
So, it's becoming even an larger mess and more confusing by overruling secret identity. If I understand it
correctly. Giant + rouges = rouges are instantly killed when attacked. Giant + Giant rouges = Giant rouges
dying all when the original giant dies?
That would be vastly more interesting, if it had for example an special skill that grants that
buff. I dunno what the tricker could be but perhaps something similar to chess? In an larger
scale battle or something?
Because giants are just: pay 10 units of this unit and get 900% bonus applied on it but with a few minor limitations.
If so, why not play the game by achieving the 900% military bonuses instead of an easy alternative way to get it fast? Giants don't make the game more complex, just easier to get 900% bonus applied to units of you're choice and making a few fights impossible without them. Doesn't changing battles at all.
Now you're just conveniently changing the rules to fit you better. First it was only activated by 4 siege camps. Now its an random chance because I've pointed out that work arounds are easy. Cheats will evolve anyways. Heard of AI learning? They just need to figure out how to teach an AI how to recognise giants and tell it what to do in such case.
Alright you don't understand the point at all. Read this part very carefully. It seems you don't know how to get 900% now and don't see how giants are an easy way to get it. As understanding those 2 are crucial to understanding my point.